British Politics
Been on holiday for a few weeks, surprised to find no general discussion of British politics so though I'd kick one off.
Tory leadership contest is quickly turning into farce. Trump has backed Boris, which should be reason enough for anyone with half a brain to exclude him.
Of the other candidates Rory Stewart looks the best of the outsiders. Surprised to see Cleverly and Javid not further up the betting, but not sure the Tory membership are ready for a brown PM.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/bri...
Regarding the LD leadership contest, Jo Swinson is miles ahead of any other candidate (and indeed any of the Tory lot). Should be a shoe in.
Finally, it's Groundhog Day in Labour - the more serious the anti-Semitism claims get, the more Corbyn's cronies write their own obituary by blaming it on outlandish conspiracy theories - this week, it's apparently the Jewish Embassy's fault...
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I think Denmark can use EU rules to send them back to the EU country they were in before entering Denmark (almost always, Germany ofc).
Once you enter safe space you don't have an international law right to move around anywhere else in the world afaik
You don't necessarily have to claim asylum in the first safe country you come to, but the UK government reserves the right to reject your application if you come from another safe country. This policy is sometimes complicated by appeals to the ECHR, but it does sometimes work and results in deportation.
Lol jeez ahahahah this is so funny
Such a right wing unprincipled leader meeting Meloni about how to treat refugees has been very depressing reading
You don't necessarily have to claim asylum in the first safe country you come to, but the UK government reserves the right to reject your application if you come from another safe country. This policy is sometimes complicated by appeals to the ECHR, but it does sometimes work and results in deportation.
If they didn't change rules recently, in the EU you actually do (I think it was the Dublin accords or something with a similar name).
But I know they keep trying to amend them so maybe that happened and I am not aware
Such a right wing unprincipled leader meeting Meloni about how to treat refugees has been very depressing reading
Minor correction: those aren't refugees (yet).
Those are asylum seekers. And not it's not the same at all not even vaguely. Many (majority of them at least in Italy, going by acceptance rates) are scammers who try to abuse a system built to help people with specific need for their own advantage, get refused asylum, never were refugees, and then can't be deported for various reasons.
Such a right wing unprincipled leader meeting Meloni about how to treat refugees has been very depressing reading
It's mainly just Starmer cosying up to the domestic far right while cosplaying a world leader, and it's cost us another £4m and some effort that should have been put to better use.
What a total ****ing **** this vacuous **** is.
If he ate pizza while on a short trip to Italy that says a lot about him.
Anyway the best pizza I ever had was in France.
lol at the EU heads whining about Germany taking control of its own borders.
They will never, ever learn that their brand of nanny-ish anti-democracy and antagonism to national democracies far older then their institutions is the wellspring for the far right in Europe, will they.
I wonder how many Germans are pondering on brexit and wondering if it might be a good idea for them too.
One thing that the disaster of Brexit has been good for, probably the only thing, is to help clarify in the EU member's minds exactly how important EU membership is to them.
Be very complacent to think this is anything but a short/medium term benefit unless the UK is brought back in by some means. Brexit is a disaster for the EU as well and will still be there when the perception shifts again
That perception will shift again
It's nothing to do with objectivity or even the the truth
There will be times when the perception of the voters is that britain is doing well from brexit compared to those still stuck in the EU. That is very dangerous for the EU.
Only plausible way this doesn't happen is if the UK is brought back into the fold.
Labour MPs working to get Reform elected
If they didn't change rules recently, in the EU you actually do (I think it was the Dublin accords or something with a similar name).
But I know they keep trying to amend them so maybe that happened and I am not aware
It's a bit more complicated, per Art.35 of the 2013 directive.
Article 35
The concept of first country of asylum
A country can be considered to be a first country of asylum for a particular applicant if:
(a)
he or she has been recognised in that country as a refugee and he or she can still avail himself/herself of that protection; or
(b)
he or she otherwise enjoys sufficient protection in that country, including benefiting from the principle of non-refoulement,
provided that he or she will be readmitted to that country.
In applying the concept of first country of asylum to the particular circumstances of an applicant, Member States may take into account Article 38(1). The applicant shall be allowed to challenge the application of the first country of asylum concept to his or her particular circumstances.
I don't think the Germans are going to do that. It would be very interesting if they did, but it seems pretty unlikely.
Afd isn't pushing for exit afaik.
Germany out of the EU polls I think in the 25-30% are most iirc. I don't think there is a single country where exit sentiment polls at 50+ right now.
Meloni certainly got it crushed in Italy, we were at 40-45 willing to move away in our darkest days
I don't think the Germans are going to do that. It would be very interesting if they did, but it seems pretty unlikely.
Quick google showed AfD had it in their thoughts recently....
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/j...
And AfD would of course start pushing for that if it smelled blood in the water
