QQ in weird hand

QQ in weird hand

1/3 NLHE, 8 handed

Table is very loose passive except for the two players on H's left. People are going to the mats with TPGK, 2ndNFD, OESD without clean outs, etc. Game is deep but capped at 500$. I've played one or two hands and lost half my stack and plan to just rip the rest in and go home.

HH: H opens AKo UTG, LP unknown 3-bets 2.5x from CO, V1 cold calls SB, H 4-bets 2.5x more, CO calls, V1 calls. 3-ways checks all the way down on J-7-7-T-7 and they both have 99 and chop.

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H is eff with 260$.

Two limps to H including V1 UTG (from HH), H sees red QQ and opens 20, BTN unknown calls (just know he's loose passive), V1 calls UTG. 3-ways in the middle.

Flop 60 - 8 4 2

V1 donks for 25, H calls, BTN flicks in the call like he's annoyed

Turn 135 - 5

V1 checks, H bets 60, BTN calls, V1 calls

River 315 - 2

V1 checks, H shoves 155...

15 September 2024 at 11:47 PM
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I don't like the plan of ripping it all in regardless before you go home.

As played it's fine imo.

I think the only big decision is do you raise flop to the donk, but given donk is multiway, it could be strong, and if it's weak like say 89, then we probably just scare them away. So I think call is fine.

Given the donker doesn't continue, I like bet.

River is thin, but given looseness of game fine; draws will obv fold, but A8 may look you up, along with 99-JJ, and if you get coollered by something like A2, so be it.


I'm not in my home country and dont have much local money so I just bought in for 500 and was planning to play it and leave, its just the type of game that requires several BIs.


In the first hand, I don't like the 4-bet, given the stack sizes. I'd rather just call or fold.

In the second hand, given your stack size and the ease with which you could be outdrawn, I'd just rip it on the flop.


Depending on exactly where we are I would often overlimp preflop. If raising at this stack size I would go to about ~10% = $25 just to have that much more of a comfortable stackoff with an overpair postflop.

I really wish we went more preflop to not offer in the 13-14 IO range. But SPR is 4 and board is drawy and we haz an overpair. I'm feeling pretty committed. I would typically go about $135 to offer poor 2:1 to draws. But with just $240 remaining, I might look at my cards to pretend I have that draw and rip it.

Ditto reasoning for turn where I might rip it again. I don't think we should be playing committed spots over 3 streets on drawy boards.

Decent river card that counterfeits two pairs and unlikley anyone was sandbagging on this drawy turn. I'm cool with the shove, but at this stack size we should have been getting in the chips a lot sooner, imo.

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BTN calls, V1 folds saying he must not be good, BTN shows J2o


by Stupidbanana k

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BTN calls, V1 folds saying he must not be good, BTN shows J2o

How awesome is this game????


When we have thick value in loose-splashy games, I'm just trying to get as much money into the pot as possible, as soon as possible.

I don't know what position hero is in to start the hand, or what the usual open size is, but I might open smaller, if it seems likely to induce more calls, and if we think someone is likely to squeeze before the action gets closed.

Alternatively, if a $20 open gets 2 or more callers, and we think those same peeps will call $25, then maybe we can open to $25.

Otherwise, the $20 open seems fine.

On the flop, at this SPR, I'm raising that flop donk, all day, not giving BTN a good price to call behind us. And I'm bombing that 5h on the turn, not betting less than 1/2 pot.

If we raised flop over that donk, it's just an easy jam for value on the turn.

As played, hard to see what worse hands call our jam on the river, when the board is paired and there are a few possible straights. Looks like V1 is giving up with missed spades, so we're hoping BTN might call us with 8x, A5, or maybe 54 for a counterfeited 2P. If he seems annoyed, he probably has some piece of the board that doesn't want to call three bets.

Think I'd probably bet much smaller, like $60-$75. Doubtful we can get worse hands to call off much more than that.


I would play the hand exactly the same way and later post it on 2+2 with the same topic title.

This hand actually goes pretty well scenario-wise. Many times, you see some spades on the turn or other cards that kill the action and make your hand even more awkward—like an Ace OTT, for example.

I think with Q , you just call the flop donk bet. But with non-spade QQ, you raise.

And if I understand correctly, the deeper the stacks, the more you lean toward just calling here(OTF). But with under 100bb effective, raising donk bets isn’t a big deal.

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