A clueless noob reaches 1000 hours of live 1/3 NL

A clueless noob reaches 1000 hours of live 1/3 NL

A Clueless NL Noob Reaches 1000 Hours of Live 1/3 NL

Hi, I’m gobbledygeek! I’ve just reached 1000 hours of live 1/3 NL!

Who This Post Is For:

This post is for fellow clueless NL noobs! Maybe you’ve never played poker before and are wondering what’s possible at this live low stakes NL game and how to go about winning at it. Or perhaps you’ve played the Limit version of the game (which I did initially) and are looking to turn to the dark side. This post will be fairly results oriented and more-or-less (a) state my statistics over my first 1000 hours of live 1/3 NL and then (b) do it’s best to describe my general approach to this game.

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22 February 2013 at 04:52 PM
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by gobbledygeek k

overall it is hard to win money off me



I think any regulars know to stay away from GG. He is difficult to exploit because he will just fold when he knows to fold. I am not a fan of the way he plays, but it is working for him. The type of players who just sit and wait for good hands seem to win all the time versus guys who are trying to crush them somehow and get tilted in their efforts. I see it all the time. It is not crushing the game, but it's steady and it pays.


by rickroll k

again, when you can put your opponent on a very narrow range then you have a massive advantage imo

My very strong sense from both solver study and from playing the game is that range proportionality is more important for unexploitability than range width. It's harder to play against 3.5% of hands that contains AQs than against 10% of the hands that doesn't contain A5s. If two different players are equally incapable of showing up with a bluff other than a super nutted draw, those nutted draws are going to do more to balance a narrow range than a wide one.

(That last sentence probably doesn't apply to GG much because I don't think he ships even the very nutted draws very often, and in actuality it's just a lot of TPGK+).

Now playing more hands more aggressively helps you achieve the "optimal" part of game theory optimal, but I think (for example) l/rring 3.5% of hands is going to get a comparable amount of chips in the middle as r/f'ing 10% of hands. Same goes for playing a MSS and cramming all your chips in the middle every time you hit TPGK+.

It's sub-optimal in a lot of ways (first and foremost in not buying in for the full amount in a high rake game), but no less optimal than a lot of the BSS strats that people play poorly.


by rickroll k

Lol'ed, although couldn't figure out if I was Tyson (I'm definitely not) or you?

Earlier this year, I was involved in this HU hand against a young guy who I'm guessing is top 3 in the pool. He arrived on the scene a couple years (maybe more?) before Covid and as far as I understand it has been doing this full time. So I've been playing with him for probably at least a half dozen years, maybe more. The hand we played earlier this year is literally the only hand I can ever remember playing against him.

I mean, our room isn't large: only 7 tables, with 3 to 4 tables running being the average. And although I leave earlier now than I used to (typically maxing out at 6:30pm), as of only a ~year ago I was often staying until 9:30pm (with him mostly showing up in the early evening to play into the post midnight hours). But he's still very easy to avoid. We're sometimes on the same table, but typically not for long (he's aiming to get on the action table while I'm aiming to get on the under-the-radar table). He's tight and I'm tighter, so unlikely to be in the same hand to begin with. I don't mind sitting OOP to him when sitting on my shortstack, but if I'm deep I'm never sitting OOP to him at his table. And meanwhile he's going to have a difficult time picking me apart even with his massive skillz advantage and my easily definable range, cuz what's he gonna do? Raise my shortstack limp to isolate? He'd better have a monster (cuz it's likely I do). Or overlimp and outplay me where I'm protected in a 6way limped pot? He's of course way too good to actually lose money to me. But I can avoid losing money to him (and other better players) fairly easily with good table/seat selection and stack management.

So if you were part of my pool, there's a very good chance we'd hardly ever be involved in the same hand, especially HU, especially deep, especially with me OOP.

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The one and only HH in 6+ years of playing together that I can recall:

A fish limps. He raises the Button. I just flat QQ in the SB to hopefully invite the fish along, but he disappoints. HU to Axx flop. I check/call a small bet. He checks back blank turn/rivers and tables AJo to scoop. Mistakes probably made by both of us on various streets but we both move on with our lives and await our next clash in 2030 (if we're both still around).

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by gobbledygeek k

A fish limps. He raises the Button. I just flat QQ in the SB to hopefully invite the fish along

How come every time I defend you, you follow it up with some sh-- like this? Are you out to make me look dumb? Is that what this is about?


by RaiseAnnounced k

How come every time I defend you, you follow it up with some sh-- like this? Are you out to make me look dumb? Is that what this is about?



Yeah, kinda outsmarted myself on that one. Top 10 smartest in room too... so good room, ldo. 😀

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