AK; triple broadway board

AK; triple broadway board

2/3/5 NL effective stack $760, 8-handed

UTG+1 limps $5
Hero UTG+2 AcKs makes it $25
HJ calls
Button calls
SB calls
UTG+1 calls

($123) As Jc Ts
Checks to Hero who bets $100.
Folds to SB who asks how much H has behind, then calls.

Heads up. V is the big stack ($2000). Appears to be a recreational player, MAG.

($323) 3d
V checks.
H bets $300.
V all-in.

H has $335 left behind.

H should call?
Should H have checked the turn? Or bet smaller?

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23 September 2024 at 06:27 PM
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I think way too big flop and turn (you’re targeting exactly AQ?). Now that you’re here I guess call and bink a Q.


I was thinking flush draws would call.

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by OGfromOCC k

I was thinking flush draws would call.

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Not going to be many of them since the As, Ks, Ts, are all accounted for.

I'm betting smaller and/or checking one or other of flop/turn.


We're betting way too big on the flop multiway imo. I would go quarter pot or check. At a table full of recs you are going to be cold called by a lot of KQo, AJo, ATs, JTs, possibly ATo, JTo. When your 760 stack goes in on this board, you can't be too thrilled. Your hand is very likely a 2 street hand considering the board and how multiway it is.

As played I would call it off sometimes you may have the best hand and villain just decided to go with his A or whatever. You have some equity vs hands like 2p as well. You're getting too good of a price now I think.

It's really not out of the question to 25% pot on the flop and contemplate folding to a huge raise. Or to check flop, and on the turn someone bets and another guy raises huge and we can consider folding. But we can definitely call bets on the turn and some bets on the river. Or we can bet turn when checked to and bet river, something like half pot turn, 2/3 pot river.

I think two things are really important to our winrate here. 1) Recognizing the size pot we want to play with our hand. 150bb deep in a single raised pot 5 ways to the flop, TPTK is often not going to want to get stacks in. 2) we want to pot control and make some tight folds multiway. You beat this game by being the guy who stacks AK on this board and by being the guy who might lose a decent pot with AK, but not your entire stack. You can't do that when you bet near pot on the flop and turn.


As others have said, the flop bet is too big.

Human nature makes it hard to fold to the turn raise, but it's difficult to believe that AK is good here at least 1/3 of time.


Surely there's no sets here because they ought to squeeze pre. So

You're probably up against 2p or a straight, and less often flush or fd. You can bink a lot of cards to beat AT, AJ, JT. 4xQ and 3x either j/t, 2xA and 2xK. So that's 11 outs or 21%. You block some KQ, the As is out there reducing chances of a Flush/draw.

Looks like a pretty close spot to call? Agree that bet sizes were too big though.


V has a few combo's of bluffs here KJ/QJ. He has a ton of value 2 pairs and infrequently a straight. We put ourselves in a bad spot where folding or calling both could be a terrible mistake but with our large sizing both flop/turn V has to be weighted to value here.

Going 4 ways on this flop should be a check or bet small. It will give you more information to re-evaluate on turn.


V flopped a straight.
This was a bad way for me to lose my stack.
When will I learn?!?


by OGfromOCC k

V flopped a straight.
This was a bad way for me to lose my stack.
When will I learn?!?

You’re supposed to lose a decent amount of money to V here but getting stacked isn’t unlucky or cold, as you note.


Seems like overplaying TPTK and gutshot on a very wet board.


by OGfromOCC k

2/3/5 NL effective stack $760, 8-handed

UTG+1 limps $5
Hero UTG+2 AcKs makes it $25
HJ calls
Button calls
SB calls
UTG+1 calls

($123) As Jc Ts
Checks to Hero who bets $100.
Folds to SB who asks how much H has behind, then calls.

Heads up. V is the big stack ($2000). Appears to be a recreational player, MAG.

($323) 3d
V checks.
H bets $300.
V all-in.

H has $335 left behind.

H should call?
Should H have checked the turn? Or bet smaller?

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Go learn what percentage of the time you have to be right to call. You're spending how much in poker and don't know this already? Then work out what you think is the percentage of the time you're right then apply any tells.

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