rivered full house; tough decision

rivered full house; tough decision

PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 159.8 BB (VPIP: 27.32, PFR: 19.77, 3Bet Preflop: 7.33, Hands: 1,247)
CO: 169.92 BB (VPIP: 27.41, PFR: 23.16, 3Bet Preflop: 11.71, Hands: 634)
Hero (BTN): 183.8 BB
SB: 122.52 BB (VPIP: 22.05, PFR: 14.91, 3Bet Preflop: 4.51, Hands: 329)
BB: 100.08 BB (VPIP: 29.63, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 27)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 6 6

fold, CO raises to 2.2 BB, Hero calls 2.2 BB, fold, BB calls 1.2 BB

Flop: (7 BB, 3 players) Q Q 3
BB checks, CO bets 2.12 BB, Hero calls 2.12 BB, fold

Turn: (11.24 BB, 2 players) 7
CO bets 3.44 BB, Hero calls 3.44 BB

River: (18.12 BB, 2 players) 6
CO bets 26.4 BB, Hero raises to 61.48 BB, CO raises to 162.16 BB and is all-in

Hero? ...

25 September 2024 at 08:18 PM
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22 Replies



Sick spot. I dont think I could fold this. I would hope that villain has 33 and click call

He probably has 77 right lol


You raise a river overbet and they shove their remaining 140BB into the pot.

77 they probably check on the flop facing 2 opponents, maybe they cbet 77 with 7h still.
QQ they might check flop, but bet very small is nice also in a 3-way pot I guess.
Q7s and Q6s are in a CO open range, but I imagine Q7 bets bigger on the turn.
54s would be quite an overplay.

Their play seems consistent with QQ and Q6s only, and the latter is blocked heavily. But what are their bluffs ?!?

I don't know about your turn call, seems a bit ambitious.


I forgot 33, but same as Q7, why so small on the turn when there is so much money behind?


I'd call. It's a bogus line for value and your super small river raise might make CO want to jam random stuff because your line doesn't make a lot of sense for a FH.

There's only 1 - Q7s, 2 - Q3s, 3 - 77, 3 - 33, and 1 - QQ that CO can have and it would be weird for any of them to show up often given preflop and bet sizes.


You can't see me rn because this is the internet but I'm pulling my 'calling all boats' face


Looks like a call. Also based on stats, looks like he's capable of having some bluffs here.


by Ceres k

You can't see me rn because this is the internet but I'm pulling my 'calling all boats' face

LOL


Don't like the river raise after his overbet. Seems more likely to use this size otr with boats than Qx knowing Qx will struggle to find any folds. In the event that he does have Qx, raising the overbet looks super strong so he probably finds some folds. So i'd just call river first time. His sizing on all streets also makes more sense with quads or boats than Qx.


by andymc1 k

Don't like the river raise after his overbet. Seems more likely to use this size otr with boats than Qx knowing Qx will struggle to find any folds. In the event that he does have Qx, raising the overbet looks super strong so he probably finds some folds. So i'd just call river first time. His sizing on all streets also makes more sense with quads or boats than Qx.

But what if villain has AQ and he overplays it. Then we could lose some serious value by not going all in?


by Slasher- k

But what if villain has AQ and he overplays it. Then we could lose some serious value by not going all in?

That's definitely a risk. But I think someone with these stats finds a fold sometimes once we raise the overbet. I'm talking about our first raise otr btw. Not about what happened after that.


by boulgakov k

I forgot 33, but same as Q7, why so small on the turn when there is so much money behind?

To get a call from someone that has shown they are willing to call but not willing to raise. I agree with the poster that wrote once the river gets overbet the range is polarized and whereas we beat all weak hands the only strong hand we beat is 33. Given this the raise seems a bad play in theory.


by andymc1 k

That's definitely a risk. But I think someone with these stats finds a fold sometimes once we raise the overbet. I'm talking about our first raise otr btw. Not about what happened after that.

Yeah a good player probably finds a fold there with AQ, I agree


Dont call pre without fish on the blinds
Not sure if flop is a call MW probably not
Turn is for sure fold. Call river ofc


Turn call is probably bad and river raise is def bad vs his size. And snap fold vs jam as played - even is he shows you a bluff its spew to call


by yocrackattack k

And snap fold vs jam as played - even is he shows you a bluff its spew to call

What do you think villian has?


I think villain has 33 or 77


by AskZandar k

I'd call. It's a bogus line for value and your super small river raise might make CO want to jam random stuff because your line doesn't make a lot of sense for a FH.

This.

I think you induced a raise bud.


PLOT TWIST. CO has 45os


I cried, I called
Villain showed 7-7
I cried some more.

Thanks for the advice everyone.
I'll take from it that I need to work on my response on polarizing river bets. (Especially when deep stacked)


by Haizemberg93 k

Dont call pre without fish on the blinds
Not sure if flop is a call MW probably not
Turn is for sure fold. Call river ofc

this are my thoughts as well


River raise is good if you are disciplined enough to fold to a shove. He won't shove Qx. Shoving a missed fd or overpair seems suicidal in his spot. There's always the spaz factor which makes it hard to r/f here


It's definitly been a learning curve for me and an aspect of my game that needs improvement.

Just recently moving upwards from 10NL where you get jammed on by such ridicilous hands vs certain oponents. It's a very big difference on 25NL where poeple for the majority seem to recognise borderline spots better.

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