The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

Trying to renovate the kitchen while the house is burning is a lost cause .
Trudeau is finish and the liberals will learn it the hard way .
He might pulled 3rd .
I’m just hoping polievre finishes with a minority .
Can you imagine if he could pull up a majority with Bernier party ?
God save us ….

Right, together with the increased small business capital gains exemption raised to 1.25 million, applying mostly to richest canadians, and fixing the tax parity issue where different types of income generation were taxed differently depending on how you structured it. Look you can huff and puff your bromides about raising taxes all you want, but this fits within my point. Trudeau WASN"T some transformative leader when it comes to business and taxes - keeping the massive slashing of corporate tax cuts being probably the best example of this. There's a few tweaks here and there, and you can say the tweaks like the capital gains inclusion rate are a tweak in the wrong direction if you wish. But if you liked Harper's approach to the economy, most of it just continued on. Take something like foreign direct invesment to gdp - Canada is 2nd in the G20.

Lol. I doubt that. It seems pretty obvious he raised the tax to generate revenue not because raising the tax is some massive popular thing. More or a doing the right thing to be fiscally responsible despite any tax rise always been unpopular.

Yeah I actually agree with most of what you are saying in general. I disagree completely on the capital gains tax. However I can only be angry at a few small things here and there. I gave him like a B+ grade a few months ago.

Trudeau mostly left things alone and didn't rock the boat too much. He's rocking it a little more right now because he is desperate but that's understandable.

Where he is dying politically is in housing. With population growth at 3% a year (98% or so from immigration) and home building at historic lows, housing costs are very expensive all across Canada. Housing is #1 on people's worries right now. Ultimately he does have partial direct blame here since he alone decides on immigration.

You're in construction. Wasn't it the case going back to 2021ish that it was SUPER hard to hire skilled trades workers and construction was in a really big labour crunch? I remember so many stories about how to decrease costs in industry after industry (my bad if construction wasn't one of them, I thought it was) that we desparately need more labour in to fill the holes.

With the triple whammy of high inflation and high interest rates and municipalities drunk on ever increasing development costs while catering to NIMBYs, it's somewhat easy at this point to feel the immigration door while closing by the feds should have been closed faster and harder. I think these issues are a lot more circular than they appear, especially because the feds control immigration but only indirectly housing and the while one can get mad at the top line numbers sort of ignoring GDP effects entirely I don't think that is particularly helpful.

If they control immigration surely they could help solve the problem of a lack of skilled trades workers and construction. through immigration...? Even if they cant find enough skilled workers they could encourage all the foreign students/immigrants into that sector through the school they are already paying for or through incentives of permanent residence

That’s (sort of) what they’ve been doing, there are a bunch of industries including construction with pressing needs where it is way easier to immigrate to Canada on than others. This influx helped maintain our GDP and get the jobs few Canadians want like in agricultural or fish processing etc, but of course it brings in people and rental housing at the bottom of the market really suffered.

Part of the reason that those jobs suck so much is because there is no incentive to make them better. Pay and conditions would improve if they actually had to compete for workers rather than saying, welp can’t find anyone to work, guess we will just have to import some workers.

At least in the US they are always crying about a “shortage” of tradespeople and when you look into it they pay $20 an hour with no benefits for backbreaking work with coked up yahoos that don’t follow safety standards.

Like no wonder there is a “shortage”. Pay $40 an hour with benefits and follow safety standards and suddenly your shortage disappears.

Isn’t just trades, nursing, teaching etc suffer from similar problems. They even claim there is a shortage of programmers after 2 years of record layoffs and record enrollment in computer science programs.

There was a lot of baby-boomers here so yeah when they retired and still do today , u got shortage .
But again I’ll stomp on it , still too many unprofitable companies (small and medium sizes zombies companies stealing Human Resources) .
Pre COVID they kept them alive through monetary policy at 0% interest rates .
Post Covid they open the gates to workers living in survival mode by doing those jobs keeping those companies open ( with a massive increase in social cost ) .

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/36-2...

Canada needs a readjustment but politically , recessions are unacceptable anymore .
FWIW Trudeau immigration policy was clearly inappropriate post COVID .

I remember reading that very few immigrants go into the construction sector and this is a big part of why we just don't build more housing I am talking about that not fish processing. Clearly they didn't do a very good job with this aspect or that issue would have been solved over the last decade

This is precisely the dual edged sword. In quite a wide swath of industries, there was a massive clamoring to solve the problem mot domestically but as you suggest here with more immigration. And construction IS one of the priority groups for express entry I believe, this is something liberals (correctly) added behind the usual health care professionals etc where there is also huge labour supply challenges.

But if you do that in industry after industry you get a lot of immigration, as we got and that brings its own problems.

The Bloc is silly. They have a current threat to stop supporting the government unless there is an expansion in OAS for senior and eliminating dairy/eggs etc in any possible future trade negotiations. Both are a little silly. OAS expansion in the 65-74 group sounds lovely, it is just very expensive. OAS & GIS combined are a huge line item, more than health transfers for instance. I'd prefer focusing on GIS than OAS because a lot of seniors don't need that extra support, so focus just on the ones that do. The second is just annoying. Our dairy system really hurts us in so many trade negotiations but for bizarre historical reasons and present lobbying reasons it has remained absolutely sacrosanct. I'm not even saying to get rid of it, but the idea of taking it completely off the table in any future negotiation where we might gain a big quid in exchange for a minor quo doesn't seem right. Also interesting that both of these demands are sort of agnostic of it being about quebec, they are obviously interests of quebec with an old population and lots of dairy industry, but still apply canada wide.

Interesting times.

Well thank goodness all that silly poilievre drama teacher showboating is over for the day with the conservative confidence motion emphatically failed as it was always going to fail. But Poilievre got to repeat the same 4 slogans over and over and over and over and over (and then get mad at CTV the one time they didn't repeat it) and over and over and over and over again.

I do have a question. At some point Poilievre should actually release a comprehensive plan of what he is going to do....right? Like something beyond the axetherebate slogans? Something with details? Like his comprehensive climate change policies with the prediction for the amount of CO2 emissions his policies will generate? DItto every other file? Because back in the day lozen and shifty were droning on about how there is no need for him to do this with the NDP agreement meaning the election was 1+ year away. But now he is pretending it could have been called today, so surely now is the time you guys are going to demand a detail behind the empty slogans?

Are you going to vote for him if you like it?

If I like his plans? Obviously. I’m a non-partisan voter prioritizing climate change. If he has the best plan AND a realistic shot of implementing it he earns my vote. Right now we have a decent set of policies vs a plan to rip them up and replace them with a slogan.

Did anyone catch what the homophobic slur a conservative MP hurled at a Trudeau was? I keep seeing it referenced, but not the exact term.

Hopefully poilievre strongly condemns and sanctions this MP tomorrow.

something weak like "in an overpriced bathtub" probably should have shrugged it off not a good look

Not sure it was a homophobic slur it was like

. Made up drama by Justin is more like it

Probably the stupidest thing a voter can prioritize in Canada right now.

Again, anyone who is crazy enough to vote liberal next election isn't changing their vote because the Conservatives come out with a plan they like. What Pierre is doing is working and the Liberals are just hoping to keep their official party status next election.

Reprehensible. Hopefully poilievre has the backbone to strongly and emphatically condemn making gay sex jokes in the House of Commons.

Indeed. But ar some point, doing what is right should matter too. Like this bit of not releasing details on plans for basically any major file and just relying on trite slogans might work politically, but after you are elected you actually have to implement plans and I for one think the Canadian people deserve to know what those plans are. Especially if the intent was for an election to be called yesterday. Maybe you are right and not revealing a bunch of vile plans likely to be opposed and playing it safe with politically popular slogans is a better political strategy, but at some point you’d hope the faithful would point out that it is a shitty one.

again Canada has near no effect on climate change and is a northern climate so is effected the least. Efforts should be brought in through international efforts not local elections. its a really really weird thing t worry about as your number 1 issue in canada. Canada is not a global leader with any real influence

Perhaps, although Trudeau followed through on a surprisingly large number of election promises over the previous elections. You're of course right that no party ever does 100%, but on this measuring stick pretty good.

My complaint is that Poilievre should at least tell us the plans and some of their details. Right now we have empty slogans. Doesn't that seem weird that he is calling for non-confidence and Canadians don't have details about what he actually wants to do?

You are so untrustworthy I am going to need a direct quote. Canada SHOULD increase the carbon tax in April and climate change IS doing things like causing record insurance claims. So unless he very very specifically said something like "Canada's contributions to reducing emissions alone will make a change to insurance claims in a time frame of a year" or something similar is he stating something factually wrong.

Lol Poilievre the ****ing DRAMA TEACHER is doing more drama in the house of commons, preventing real work from happening, and setting up another non-confidence motion to repeat his rehearsed four lines over and over and over again.

https://globalnews.ca/news/10776160/conservatives-2nd-non-confidence-motion-trudeau/

Global News

After 1st failed attempt, Conservatives table another non-confidence motion - National | Globalnews.ca

So much show. So little substance.