British Politics
Been on holiday for a few weeks, surprised to find no general discussion of British politics so though I'd kick one off.
Tory leadership contest is quickly turning into farce. Trump has backed Boris, which should be reason enough for anyone with half a brain to exclude him.
Of the other candidates Rory Stewart looks the best of the outsiders. Surprised to see Cleverly and Javid not further up the betting, but not sure the Tory membership are ready for a brown PM.
https://www.oddschecker.com/politics/bri...
Regarding the LD leadership contest, Jo Swinson is miles ahead of any other candidate (and indeed any of the Tory lot). Should be a shoe in.
Finally, it's Groundhog Day in Labour - the more serious the anti-Semitism claims get, the more Corbyn's cronies write their own obituary by blaming it on outlandish conspiracy theories - this week, it's apparently the Jewish Embassy's fault...
I'm sure they play plenty in terms of what they use but that's not the point. We can't continue with this idea that rich people may more tax in absolute terms so massive inequality is ok. It isn 't, it's destroying us. Non-dom is small easy meat so it's pretty meh unless it's part of a serious understanding that inequality has to be tackled. If it's the beginning of something then hurrah!
Also very hard to tackle without a lot of international agreements. We mustn't continue to let rich people (or companies are 'you listening Apple) play us off against each other.
I'm sure they play plenty in terms of what they use but that's not the point. We can't continue with this idea that rich people may more tax in absolute terms so massive inequality is ok. It isn 't, it's destroying us. Non-dom is small easy meat so it's pretty meh unless it's part of a serious understanding that inequality has to be tackled. If it's the beginning of something then hurrah!
Also very hard to tackle without a lot of international agreements. We mustn't continue to let rich people (o
Man it isn't "normal" rich people who became so in the country and are citizens.
It's foreigners who would otherwise be somewhere else.
I dont have an issue with foreigners. All just people. Rich or poor
LONDON — The EU could modify its plan for a youth mobility scheme with the U.K. to make the idea more politically palatable to Keir Starmer, under an approach being discussed in Brussels.
Changes to the original blueprint presented by the European Commission in the spring might include caps on numbers, shorter stays in their host country, or tighter eligibility criteria, EU officials told POLITICO. They were granted anonymity to speak freely.
The proposal could also be renamed to give it a fresh political start.
im saying its impossible for a 2024 politician in a western democracy to have a sustained high approval rating outside of a war situation/something equally extreme
if jesus christ himself took office and fixed the NHS, eliminated the national debt, built ten million houses and passed a law which meant free blowjobs for all, his approval rating at the end of the year would be -5
The public mood does seem that way, but in Britain it may be because the last half-dozen prime ministers have all bungled it one way or another, and none of them had a clear success to their credit -- except Gordon Brown, who won great international praise for his handling of the 2008 financial crisis, but the public blamed him anyway because he didn't have the right personality for the top job and he always seemed grudgy and uneasy.
Not sure Jesus Christ would fit the bill either, because he was one of those people who think the world's about to end -- 'Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his Kingdom.' (Matt 16.28, and Luke 9.27, which is almost identical.) So he didn't see much point in doing anything about anything except a bit of housekeeping in your soul to prepare for the end. As we know, the world still hasn't ended nearly 2000 years later, so he got that quite badly wrong.
Well the world as we know it is about to end unless something causes climate change to take a different direction.
Millions of households are paying more than 30k in income tax and they are by no means wealthy.
Non doms clearly owe the UK government a lot more than "nothing" when they use the NHS etc for free. If they are living here a lot because they like being here that is a benefit to them, and they should pay an appropriate amount of tax the same as everyone else.
Not all non-doms are exactly 'wealthy' in the biggest terms -- some of them are American academics, doing all right but not superbaddies with secret lairs under extinct volcanoes -- and the idea is that they pay their main taxes elsewhere. Bear in mind that non-dom status only relates to foreign income, not income derived from the UK.
Found chez on twitter
It could just be that a systems where politician spin a lot but in the end leave running things to the private sector/markets are always going to struggle to be popular. It barely matters who's in charge for most things - they make a huge deal about very minor difference in practical policy.
My mother told me she went to bingo, and when she won she called out 'sausages' instead of 'house'
Kier Starmer holding meeting with Trump but not Harris. Anyone with half a brain can see this is a colossally bad idea and will sour relations with the likely presidency to be. What a tit.
Or maybe he's just a sausage to fortune.
Surprised it took her so long with the level of Islamophobia in the Tory party
One of the good ones, imo. She put up with a lot to get to that point.
Kier Starmer holding meeting with Trump but not Harris. Anyone with half a brain can see this is a colossally bad idea and will sour relations with the likely presidency to be. What a tit.
Or maybe he's just a sausage to fortune.
I'm fairy sure it was harris who couldn't find time to meet starmer. I dont think that will sour relations
I get the point and it would matter if anyone in the usa cared who starmer meets (or who he is). Harris would have met him if he mattered
It was importnat for starmer to meet trump and explain why everyhting they had thought and said about him wasn't what they really think about his wonderfulness.
I assume that last sentence is sarcasm. Trump doesn't gaf about the UK or any other country including his own, obviously, and I have nfi why he's even meeting Starmer. Has Trump mistaken him for someone else?
"The prime minster of the UK came and saw me, not her! We talked about how the muslim no-go zones in London are having their cats and dogs go missing!" etc
Trump clearly cares about the UK about as much as a Bombay shitehawk cares about good table manners.
Rosie Duffield MP resigns with a damning letter about Starmer's hopelessness:
I assume that last sentence is sarcasm. Trump doesn't gaf about the UK or any other country including his own, obviously, and I have nfi why he's even meeting Starmer. Has Trump mistaken him for someone else?
UK has some value to trump. He cares about that. Starmer wanted to make sure he knew we would ask how high when he wants us to jump.
