British Politics

A lot of things that have happened since 2016 have been unprecedented. These are the times we live in.

A bit like this

Tony Blair's Ipsos approval rating at this point in 1997 was +62.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/political-mo...

which in today's currency is equal to about -10

you need to clarify your thoughts here, it's not clear what you mean at all

Well, there's certainly more voter volatility. And scepticism. Labour's support at the election was broad (efficiently distributed around the country in seat-winning terms, not penned into safe areas) but shallow and provisional, simply on the basis of 'give the other bloke a chance' because the Tories were worn out and floundering. But if Labour can't differentiate themselves from the last lot, except in terms of blaming them for everything, that support could fade rapidly. Depends if the next Tory leader seems convincing and can stop Tory support leaking to Reform, but it's not clear that Labour are doing the right things to keep the rather grudging support they were lent at the polls.

Their lack of vision will be the end of this lot.

Lack of vision yes, also lack of any actual desire to improve anything apart from some minor tinkering around the edges. That disappeared with the deselected Labour candidates.

Starmer is a pen pushing bureaucrat who's been on the expenses gravy train all his life. All Sir Keir understands is how to please the establishment.

Jesus Christ himself wouldn't be allowed into the UK in the first place now because Tories like you would protest he's an illegal immigrant and should be "sent back" despite the need for carpenters, and Farage would be at Dover swearing at his attempts to walk on water.

i'd be all for Christ as PM

i suspect you and many of the rest of the corbynistas would have a problem with his appointment

Antisemitism?

Jesus Christ would be arrested for stirring racial, ethnical and cultural hatred for his speeches against Pharisees.

British judges would put him in prison for some years because of violence in the temple caused by his inflamatory speech followed by ulterior speeches which clearly intended to stir social hatred

How about Mohammed? He might not be too keen on your views on valid targets of genocide.

Too Jewish?

slow pony

I think christ would fit very well into our left wing group. Except the son of god bit - he might have to tone that down.
I'm confident christ(ian) ethics fits well with our views on pretty much everything.

and if he gained any traction then the establishment would crucify him (possibly not literaly)

I just need you guys to know that “return of the sausages” has reached the United States

ihih

But the Guardian understands that Treasury officials fear estimates due to be released by the government’s spending watchdog may suggest the policy will fail to raise any money because of the impact of the super-rich non-domiciles leaving the UK.

https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2024...

if the independent watchdog tasked with estimating fiscal impact gives you estimates you dislike just disregard them, what could go wrong

The folly of trying to tax the super rich through income is that some don’t have much taxable income and others will find it easy to avoid paying.

Taxing their assets in the shape of property is the way to go.

Not new. The only problem was labour lying that it would fund something.

Barely stood out among their other lies to avoid doing anything radical

those are mobile, "extra" rich people which you had attracted in the past. If your proposal is to tax some indian person on his wealth outside the UK a lot for the privilege of living in the UK, he simply won't live in the UK, will still be there some weeks when he feels like it, and will pay some taxes elsewhere where they are more reasonable.

I might even be positive aabout laboutr on this one if they focus on the moral case instead of the lies.

From what i read it looks like they are going to do it anyway no matter which estimates come out of it.

But it would be hilarious for real if at the end it came out that kicking non dom in the ass costs money to taxpayers, and you have to cut services because of that.

It's obviously morally indefensible for a wealthy person to use public services and amenities without paying any tax. Non-dom status allows the tax dodge of claiming a lower-tax state as their domicile.

If even the Tories could see the unfairness of this but you can't, it's probably a sign you should rethink your values.

Non doms are paying 30k pounds / year lump sum for their foreign incomes, which is already more than whan the median britisth taxpayers pays, and plenty enough to cover for their individual services.

That is without counting the normal taxes they pay on UK generated income, and the VAT that comes with a wealthy lifestyle (that alone is more than enough to make them exceedingly net tax payers).

But it's not enough for you and people like you, even if it's people who aren't citizens and owe the british government and citizens nothing. You want everything, you want to tax them millions on wealth accumulated elsewhere, and you are going to lose it all.

The tories wanted cash and taxing foreigners is politically easier than taxing citizens, they never have "morals" lol. At least they worked under estimates of almost 3 billions pounds a year from 2028 on (as per article).

Millions of households are paying more than 30k in income tax and they are by no means wealthy.

Non doms clearly owe the UK government a lot more than "nothing" when they use the NHS etc for free. If they are living here a lot because they like being here that is a benefit to them, and they should pay an appropriate amount of tax the same as everyone else.