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I wish I could post the good stuff here ๐
If anyone uses telegram, can introduce you or send some vids of certain ones ๐
interesting, would you consider doing a well to talk about how you got involved and what it's like?
given how this is such a new thing and apparently a really big industry now, it's a pretty fascinating subject really nobody knows much of anything about
interesting, would you consider doing a well to talk about how you got involved and what it's like?
given how this is such a new thing and apparently a really big industry now, it's a pretty fascinating subject really nobody knows much of anything about
Would be fun but prob canโt do that. Much of what they do are industry secrets. I really canโt say too much about it in a public forum.
Do you have access to all private shows?
It depends on the room. I have access to all of the secret shows which are a little bit different, and some of the privates depending on the model.
And depending on the settings and what people want, the model has the option to make a private completely one on one where nobody can spy on it or peak
Also, check your PM. If you want to see somebody in action, they are on now I sent you a link.
Also almost all the models stream and at least one other site at the same time. It is the same feed just a different way to view it and a Different site to watch it. Some even have more than two, but CB is the biggest and imo best.
Stripchat also has some cool features. The rest, like livejasmine, cam4fee, etc etc are generally a waste of time and garbage.
how did you get started doing that? did you used to be a cam guy yourself?
For about 15 to 20 years, I was a marketing executive And did a lot of video production. I’m just applying my powers for fun and good instead of evil now ๐
If you want to visit the sites, I can send you a link through PM. The redhead above should be on in about two hours or so maybe 2 1/2. But there are about 20 or 30 that I currently produce for Or help in some way. And probably more than 100 that I have helped since I started doing what I’ve been doing there.
One thing to note is that the vast majority of the girls there who are Russian, eastern European, and South American work for studios there. Affording the equipment necessary as well as the space they need is very difficult for most, so they need to use these studios, which are basically just flats of rooms with the equipment and sometimes support they need . Many of these studios mistreat the girls and can take up to 75-80% of their earnings (including fees to use the sites themselves to stream), and in a lot of cases, they are trained to scam people out of money, especially the Colombian models.
Most of the locations in their bios are not real. But there is a great fear of blackmail in Russia. People actually seek out these girls locate and track down their families and send them images of what their daughters are doing. Most of these girls do this and don’t want their friends or family to know. Blackmail is a very, very real and devastating thing, especially to the Russian models and part of what I do is protect them from that as best I can.
Often times Because sometimes they don’t speak any English - or the studio they are with forbids them From communicating themselves, except for what they are specially told to do and say on stream - there is somebody behind the scenes, actually writing everything for them in chat and pms, privates, And external media, such as Telegram or Discord. They pretend to be the models and just tell them what to do and how to do it via a computer and monitor that they can watch for instructions. You never actually have any real interaction with the model, and they will tell you things and try to get you to do things to get the money from you and then never do them.
Everybody that I moderate Is themselves and scam free. Many of them I have taught how to leave the studios and work for themselves. Others who are stuck in a studio they don’t like, I have enough pull with people to make sure that they are at least treated well while they are there while secretly trying to also get them out of a bad situation.
I actually started doing this because I wanted to help people and that is the main reason I continue to do it. The money isn’t all that big to me because I give everything back to the models and I don’t charge them for things that others do. Everything that I make, I actually give back to the models themselves.
I also help them move money on and off the site, which is very difficult in Russia.
Unfortunately, probably 95 to 98% of the people who stream are either run by operators who are speaking for them or are just scams out right.
If the sites do intrigue you, I can absolutely steer you to the people who are “real” Legitimate. However, even some of the ones that are frauds are just fun to watch.
I guess maybe I could open up some sort of a well about it, but I’ll have to figure out exactly how I can approach it and what I can and cannot disclose
As far as the viewers in the room are concerned, I am a moderator in these rooms and they have no idea what goes on behind the scenes. Most of my work is done off-line. I do not fake communications and everything that these models do is things they are comfortable with, and we have discussed.
Many of these girls were making at most $20 a day doing jobs like waitressing or other service industries. The top models can pull in a couple of thousand dollars a day and even the smaller models can pull in a few hundred dollars, which is a huge amount for them.
And some can even survive on making just $20-$30 a day. It beats waitressing.
very interesting stuff
i'm not so interested as a customer, but i always found it fascinating and briefly did some ux consulting for a streaming site in china (not porn but very revealing/riske where the girls tried to get the clients to build a personal relationship with them despite that they were streaming to thousands of men
was my first exposure to it, then was talking to some friends about it who mentioned live jasmin (i think this was even before cb) and i was blown away by the whole thing
i don't understand it at all on a personal level, why not just watch porn directly where you can better dictate what is seen, ie most of what i do see when browsing is just them standing there not enough doing anything and if you switch to couples they are mostly just simulating sex and not actually doing it and then you see all these people giving them money and it's just like "why"
always found it so bizarre and for that reason incredibly fascinating
thanks for sharing
I originally went to the site because I was bored home and just wanted to see who the **** would ever pay for porn on the Internet because it was so free and plentiful. I actually went in just to make fun of everybody on the site.
But I was surprised by some of the dynamics there and saw some potential, so decided to research it a bunch and it is actually kind of interesting and I understand why so many people get hooked on these sites. It really is more about the personal connection that it is about the porn.
In the end, the sites are more of a personality contest really than a beauty contest.
And in some cases, you really do dictate the action. You tip for what it is you want them to do or you can take them private one on one yourself and get that feeling of a true intimate experience.
It’s definitely a niche market, but it is a huge niche. The site Itself does extremely well.
thanks for sharing, super fascinating, can't imagine how hard it would be to break into that as an outsider, you just cold called them with proposals to help manage? are you russian or fluent in russian?
i'm just reminded, one of the funniest things i've ever seen in my life that i can't reasonably mention in polite society is that i was once watching a couple and someone tipped a large amount and asked for the guy to stick the dildo in his own butt instead of hers and so he agreed to do it and as he started lubing it up he looked at the camera and said "this is why you should stay in school kids"