QQ in multiway pot facing cold 3bet
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NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
BB ($7.49) [VPIP: 50% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 35.4% | Flop Agg: 42.9% | Turn Agg: 20% | River Agg: 41.2% | 3Bet: 3.4% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 33.3% | Hands: 70]
HERO ($7.11) [VPIP: 24.7% | PFR: 20.4% | AGG: 35.9% | Flop Agg: 38.8% | Turn Agg: 37.2% | River Agg: 32.8% | 3Bet: 8% | 4Bet: 8.7% | Hands: 29962]
HJ ($5.78) [VPIP: 16.7% | PFR: 9.7% | AGG: 34.9% | Flop Agg: 38.5% | Turn Agg: 30% | River Agg: 27.8% | 3Bet: 4.3% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 14.8% | Hands: 499]
CO ($5) [VPIP: 18.3% | PFR: 13.5% | AGG: 38.5% | Hands: 129]
BTN ($27.71) [VPIP: 31.9% | PFR: 23.3% | AGG: 31.6% | Hands: 960]
SB ($5.40) [VPIP: 50% | PFR: 23.8% | AGG: 28.2% | Flop Agg: 36.8% | Turn Agg: 33.3% | River Agg: 0% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 100% | Cold Call: 56.3% | Hands: 43]
Dealt to Hero: Q♣ Q♠
HERO Raises To $0.11, HJ Calls $0.11, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Calls $0.09, BB Calls $0.06
Hero SPR on Flop: [12.02 effective]
Flop ($0.44): 4♥ 7♣ 2♥
SB Checks, BB Bets $0.10 (Rem. Stack: $7.28), HERO Raises To $0.41 (Rem. Stack: $6.59), HJ Raises To $1.08 (Rem. Stack: $4.59), SB Calls $1.08 (Rem. Stack: $4.21), BB Folds, Hero?
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Im not worried about SB
But im super worried about biggest nit I have ever seen HJ, with stats like that I dont think he can have sets(maybe 77) and he does 3B a little so its not KK or AA.
Im guessing HJ had JJ after you folded.
hahaha
I think it's a tough spot, but knowing myself I'm not folding here... but I'm pretty bad. :p
As someone already mentioned I'm not worried about SB either. But JJ is a good guess. Wouldn't have thought about that.
I guess HJ could have a lot of overpairs. 88-JJ.
Thats a nightmare scenario for QQ. I wouldn't be too concerned with any over pairs better than yours here ever. He has a 4.3% 3 bet, so his range is probably JJ+. However, after he reraises you, on that flop, i think his range is going to be either a set or a smaller over pair to the board like TT 99 88, I would generally rule these out against most players and be leaning more towards a set, but since he's so nitty and isnt 3 betting a proper range, i wouldn't put it past him to have 99 TT here. I would probably lean more towards a fold here, i don't think you are in great shape here against 5nl pool, unless the player is a known maniac. If you did end up calling the turn came and he checked i would probably fire a smaller medium sized bet and expect to take it down alot of the time, and be ready to make a crying laydown if he jammed on me. Tough spot, but i think id probably reluctantly make the laydown and look for a bit of a better spot, as this particular hand played out. The 3 bet on the flop after the flat pre from such a tight player on that low board is just making too many alarm bells go off for me, i think most of the time here you will be against a set that will jam turn on a brick and have you in a really bad spot. You could jam, but i dont think you are ever getting called by a worse hand, and i really dont like just calling here, to be honest.
If you got to a showdown, im going to guess he had 44 or 77.
Could be flush draws too. But yeah, tough spot!
I thought of that as well, but i was thinking most the time the flush draw would call and play a turn in these micros, generally. I would think the caller in the SB would probably be on a low flush or combo draw more so than the tight HJ. 56h makes alot of sense there.
I would call getting good odds and a good chunk of dead money from SB. Pot will be 3-way going into the turn, so villain will play very much face up. You can fold to further aggression from HJ.
In this formation where both SB and BB are huge fish and nobody seems to be 3-betting ever, I would just open to like 4bb pre. You get to iso vs. fish much more efficiently and play for a bigger pot. You can also open much wider than usual.
Thanks for the feedback guys.
Results:
Spoiler
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NL Holdem 0.05(BB)
BB ($7.49) [VPIP: 50% | PFR: 24.2% | AGG: 35.4% | Flop Agg: 42.9% | Turn Agg: 20% | River Agg: 41.2% | 3Bet: 3.4% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 33.3% | Hands: 70]
HERO ($7.11) [VPIP: 24.8% | PFR: 20.4% | AGG: 35.9% | Flop Agg: 38.9% | Turn Agg: 37.1% | River Agg: 33% | 3Bet: 8% | 4Bet: 9% | Hands: 30432]
HJ ($5.78) [VPIP: 16.7% | PFR: 9.7% | AGG: 34.9% | Flop Agg: 38.5% | Turn Agg: 30% | River Agg: 27.8% | 3Bet: 4.3% | 4Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 14.8% | Hands: 499]
CO ($5) [VPIP: 18.3% | PFR: 13.5% | AGG: 38.5% | Hands: 129]
BTN ($27.71) [VPIP: 31.9% | PFR: 23.3% | AGG: 31.6% | Hands: 960]
SB ($5.40) [VPIP: 50% | PFR: 23.8% | AGG: 28.2% | Flop Agg: 36.8% | Turn Agg: 33.3% | River Agg: 0% | 3Bet: 0% | 4Bet: 100% | Cold Call: 56.3% | Hands: 43]
Dealt to Hero: Q♣ Q♠
HERO Raises To $0.11, HJ Calls $0.11, CO Folds, BTN Folds, SB Calls $0.09, BB Calls $0.06
Hero SPR on Flop: [12.02 effective]
Flop ($0.44): 4♥ 7♣ 2♥
SB Checks, BB Bets $0.10 (Rem. Stack: $7.28), HERO Raises To $0.41 (Rem. Stack: $6.59), HJ Raises To $1.08 (Rem. Stack: $4.59), SB Calls $1.08 (Rem. Stack: $4.21), BB Folds, HERO Folds
Turn ($3.11): 4♥ 7♣ 2♥ J♠
SB Checks, HJ Checks
River ($3.11): 4♥ 7♣ 2♥ J♠ 3♠
SB Checks, HJ Checks
Spoiler
HJ shows: K♥ T♥
SB shows: A♥ 6♥
SB wins: $2.95
Yeah I folded lol, how did you know?? So during the hand I think I had around 23% to call and thought I'm getting a good price to see a turn and see what happens but then the revulsion of having to put another 13bb into a pot I was probably going to lose at least 60% of the time took over. I think this is a good reminder to think of all avenues the game tree could lead, and not every one ends in us having to fold turn when HJ bombs it. So while it's possible I'm being results orientated in this hand, when we're getting a good price to see a turn we should definitely be consciously considering it and try to keep that revulsion at bay. Cheers!
Jam. This can easily be 88-JJ and other worse hands.
Easy fold imo- I’d rather have like 54s here than QQ and I’d fold that too.
