QQ vs nits in 3b pot
5/5
~$650 effective
CO - Total nit. Basically an empty seat. Never says a word, never does anything. Just sits there in a hoodie, mask, and glasses. He looks like Sub-Zero. I saw him raise to $50 preflop once, and his hands were shaking. Obv, everyone folded.
BB – OMC, but let me explain. He’s not your typical "Old Man Coffee" who only plays KK+. He’ll mix in some calls and raises, but overall he’s super tight and just old. More like Old Man Pepsi.
UTG limps, Hero Q♠Q♦ raises to $25, CO calls, BB 3bets to $75, Hero calls, CO calls
Flop($235) 7♠ 6♥ 4♠
BB checks, Hero - ?
I'm stuck between two nits, and I just hate life if I stab and one of them jams.
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I don't mind check to see what CO and BB do. If CO bets and BB raises alarm bells would go off. Or if CO bets large and BB calls alarm bells could still go off.
CO probably bets overpairs to the board when checked to, so especially if BB folds it would be a great spot to continue.
If it checks around we can probably start value betting a lot of turns that don't get atrocious. If it checks around and BB bombs turn again alarm bells go off.
I guess check/fold flop vs a big raise isn't isn't out of the question either. Big we go three streets we are probably losing more often than not, so I kind of like starting off with a check.
I think I bet here, because with 2 nits, a raise almost certainly has us beat, and it feels an easy fold. At worst it's AK spades, which has a ton of equity against us.
If we check, I'm mostly calling a CO bet, regardless of BB call. If BB raises CO, I'm folding, and putting him mainly on AA.
I just check vs these guys and evaluate turn.
Although checking is prudent and likely correct, I actually like betting the flop. Sub-zero can call or fold with his PP (or raise immediately and end the hand), and the presumably tight-competent BB is only potentially checkraising with AA/KK and the one combo of AK of spades. Having him fold all other AK is mucho bueno.
How much do people bet? I bet 75. Check by BB indicates weakness. OMCs bet KK+ on this flop, so his range skews toward AK. Because CO plays wider, you’re probably ahead. If either calls the flop, I’m check folding the turn.
You probably have only one street of value anyway. Check and evaluate is fine too.
Check is fine. Bet 20% pot is fine.
I'd just bet - BB checked to you and CO plays insanely straightforward so there should be some value to be had and protection. Don't think BB checks AA/KK here - better board for CO but he should be very easy to play against given your reads.
I think BB and hero should be checking range to CO, but maybe we can bet small since BB might not check AA and co might not bluff us out.
