Bluffing with Ace high against a fish.

I wouldn't 5x 3b ip just because he min raised. I wouldn't go more than 40. I would cb flop and my go to size would be 40%. You have a bdfd and bd wheel draw, so you can turn equity, or barrel certain runouts even without turning equity. The Q is a decent scare card, a k would be good as well.

As played, turn stab is fine, I would probably go 2/3 -3/4 pot though.

I am not a fan of checking flop or turn. We are 3betting A5s with the intention of cbetting a lot of flops to take it down and barreling a good amount of turns and rivers. If we're just giving up, the value of 3b hands like this goes down a fair bit.

Why do you care what a solver says when you are playing against a fish?

You shouldn't make fancy moves vs fish that by your description "does a lot of random stuff". I dislike the 3 bet as so much of the equity comes from bluffing lines and completely random players; especially ones described as "reckless", tend to call too often.

So you blasted off PF and then checked behind on a decent flop for A5s?

Maybe the turn bet with get him to fold a better Ax, but nothing else is folding.

Grunch from title alone: Don't do that. Bluffing fish is generally bad, as the biggest problem fish have is that they call too much. Yes, there are exceptions, but they require very specific conditions and types of fish. I doubt this meets those parameters, given title, but will go read the OP now and report back.

The problem with grunching from the title is that Bellezza classifies 75% of his HH opponents as "fish," even when they're basic regs.

However, using the word "fish" as a substitute for "calling station" is also an overgeneralization, since "fish" doesn't say anything about how a player will respond to a large bet.

Post Grunch: Don't three-bet A5s against fish who do random ****. The point of 3-betting that hand is balance. There is no need to balance against this guy. It's all about value.

AP: C-bet. Yes, that's a good board for a range check, but he doesn't know that. He leads/GII with an 8-out draw. To him, checking this board back screams of weakness.

AP: I'm somewhat ambivalent about the delayed c-bet. On the one hand, the board is dry and he might fold better AX or small PPs, OTOH, your story won't make much sense to him and he seems like the type who likes to get aggro when he senses weakness. Still, we have basically no SDV, so it might be worth a stab here. Obv, we are not putting another penny in the pot if called/raised.

I like the pre flop 3B. If the standard open is $20, then going to $50 seems fine.

We should range bet flop. Cap his range. Barrel big on turn. As played on flop, I guess stabbing turn for 1/2 pot is fine. I could also see sizing up to over 2/3 pot.

Otherwise, just flat call pre, let one or both blinds into the pot, and hope to smash the flop IP.

OP: Does V have a fold button or not? I doubt a successful formula for dealing with this V is 3b 50 with A5s at 100bb deep. Prefer to just call in position with a hand that plays well multiway.

Prefer to bet flop as we have lots of hand TT-QQ that need equity denial here and some semi-bluffs too.

AP: check turn.

You win money from erratic players by betting your value. Save the bluffing for the OMCs and the rationally cautious.

Preflop I'm mostly with the others about not 3betting. I held off writing for a few days: preflop, I'm calling on the BTN, presuming the blinds are passive. Raising to 50 is too high. With 500 behind hero has bad implied odds to stack V when hero hits the wheel or the nut flush. If I raised, I would raise to 30.

Flop: The whole point when 3betting the bottom range like A5s is to win with a bad hand as a bluff. You flopped a the backdoor nut flush. You 3bet preflop. I'd be happier on the flop with a bigger stack, but I think you have to bet at 40 here.

Turn: without reads, I'm just shutting down. Ed Miller crushed players barreling all the three streets, but you want a tighter villain and deeper stacks to apply the pressure.

This seems like the most std. play ever.

As played would def. bet flop.

I'm fine with the 3b. You get a great flop that favors your range and check? Would definitely bet this. On the turn - I'm probably just checking back at this point. Either you have the best hand or he's going to x/c, and will most likely x/c the river as your line looks full of ****.

3 bet is OK, but calling in position is fine to.

But I don't know why you don't bet the flop. You have ace high and a couple of backdoors, you want to try and win the pot on the flop. Bet $40-45.

i initially thought it was mandatory cbet or turn bet but looks like i'm wrong

i do expect the ev of bet to be higher than check vs pretty much anyone in your game (at equilibrium we're mostly trying to check this down and show down and i think your opps are going to overfold, and overstab vs a flop x)

The main reason I 3-bet preflop is because:
1) He made a small raise, so his range is likely weak
2) I want to play HU against a fish in position with a good hand.

But from what I understand, I should be c-betting on this type of board. If, for some reason, I’m not doing that, it’s probably better to just call preflop.

if you think his range is weak why wouldn't you keep attacking on 983

I would call preflop. I see the point of isolating, but you are playing a big pot with a marginal hand against someone likely not intimidated by the 3!.

This seems like a pretty bad flop for the 3-bettor. You can only represent overpairs. So I would check the flop and turn and reevaluate on the river.

You also have showdown value with ace high: maybe less after he calls the turn. He can have broadway cards, Kx, low suited connectors, etc.

Might go something like 70 turn all in river but prefer doing that sizing mix starting on flop.

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@Bellezza , this is at least the second time you've posted a thread in which you admit you weren't paying close attention to what V was doing prior to the hand. Whatever else you're doing at the table, I'd suggest cutting out whatever is distracting you, so you can pick up on more information. Stay off your phone.

I think most people would say 3B'ing pre to ISO and get HU with this V is fine. When we do that, we should be c-betting a lot of flops IP, especially those that are top-pair dynamic or have some draw potential. This board qualifies. Our range is going to have over-pairs that want to bet for value. Our bluffs want to start putting pressure on his 1P hands.

So, my preferred line here would be to c-bet the flop for a small size, like 1/3 pot, then size up or down on the turn depending on the card. On this turn Q that brings in JT, adds a BDFD, and might give him TP, if we decide to barrel, I'd probably size down to around 40% to half pot (changing my mind from my earlier post, when I said barrel big).

We want him to fold out his weak 1P combos, and raise off with his 2P+. If he calls, we'll need to assess the river to decide what we want to do. We'll have some give ups in our range. Our A5 might have enough showdown value to check back and win against some Kx, Jx or Tx that is drawing and misses.

If we check back turn, I think we're mostly just giving up and folding if V bets the river. I guess we could have some bluffs if he checks to us again, depending on the river card, and potentially maybe some bluff raises if he bets. With this board texture, when we don't pick up any equity on the turn, I think it's fine to abort mission and just check back rather than barrel.

If we check back flop, and he checks to us again on the turn, I think we need to bet for sure. We can size up to 2/3 pot or more, to try to take the pot down now, but we can also use the same half pot sizing, and then evaluate the river.

Alternatively, yes, we can just flat call pre and see what happens on the flop.