Bodybuilding Classic Physique Division Offseason log
You know you who it is already. Can't recall my old password or even what email I used so here we are. I promised I'd start logging if legend n1h did. So that's why I'm logging.
Short term goal:
Successfully formulate a relatively optimized and easy to adhere to offseason diet model. In terms of food selection, I am more or less following Chris Tuttle's recommendations. Our very own BGP has been getting some free diet stuff from Chris since he has a full client load but will send a handful of emails to people for free if you ask nicely and want help. If you don't know who that is, go on youtube/instagram and see the man's work.
Remain injury free, which is easy with my new exercise selection which loco would describe as "leg press and lat pulldown 4 lyfe"
Adjust to a more strictly bodybuilding programming style as opposed to a "powerbuilding" style.
Here is the medium term goal:
2024 summer on stage in classic physique division at a level that would be competitive for winning a pro card. Winning the card itself is immaterial for the medium term, it'll happen when it happens and I will be patient.
Possible obstacles to this goal are gym closers due to continued zero covid policy, possibly moving countries and being unable to focus on prep in the interim, or international political disaster. All of which are legitimate risks.
Ostensibly we will start competition prep late winter 2024 and do a very long slow 20-24 week prep where I never need to bring carbs lower than 200g/day.
Long term goal:
Compete in one professional level show in the classic physique divison in the next 10 years. Don't really give a **** about placings.
Natty: No. Test, deca, mk677, humalog, cjc with 1295 with DAC, berberine (although the last one is both a PED and a general health supplement). Low doses. high dose AAS are massively overrated for hypertrophy, the real magic is the insulin and gh (or gh secretagogues in my case). less than 1g of injectables with PEDs that work on the IGF pathway is much better than 3g of injectables, for example. I'd advise anyone who wants to go down the PED route to incorpoate gh or gh secretagogue peptides along with insulin while they are still taking 1cc of test per week before you ever add any other AAS or increase test dose. You can keep your AAS doses much lower if you actually address this very critical muscle building pathway rather than solely relying on AAS, which are harsh... man...
No prep drugs or harsh AAS until the aforementioned 2024 late winter date.
Diet: High carbohydrates with carbohydrate cycling (2 high days the day before my 2 leg days, 1 low day on the day off, 4 medium days per week offseason), moderate protein around 1.125g/lb of bw, low to moderate fats. I tried a high fat Palbumo approach in both offseason and precontest this academic year. It was a ****ing disaster; this is a terrible way to diet for bodybuilding. Although if somebody is not trying to look lean/dry/hard on stage and maintain athletic performance in the gym, it'd be a great diet to follow because antecdotally it can lead to very high compliance for some individuals because it just destroys so much of your physiological cravings and lowers appetite considerably. Somebody like the apple-pied obese woman who's username I don't even remember might do well on this because she could probably eat 80/20 ground beef bunless bacon cheeseburgers twice a day for an emotional high, not feel hungry the rest of the day, and have only consumed like 1800~ calories daily.
More detailed post with training program and food log to follow. I'm a busy man.
Oh, maybe you misunderstand me. I don't mean with marriage/relationships; in fact that's one area where you generation generally formed a superior culture to millenial/gen z/ gen a. But all this is fairly unimportant. Aphorisms that sound nice but fall apart under scrutiny annoy me, that's basically it. Older people are more likely to engage in this than younger people who get blackpilled by existing in a time that is more difficult in most important ways.
Leg extensions: 3 sets unilateral to failure, reps around 20, 15, 13
ham curls: 4 sets failure
hbbs: up to 140kgx12, 100kgx20
cut out the middle set of squats. I think 2 leg days/wk is generally too much for me. I keep saying I'll throw in more hams and then never do it. I will get around to it i promise. Once a week and fairly low number of high rep sets seems to work out great for quads; there's no reason to bury myself in volume.
"Bro Dorian yates didn't have as good of genetics as ronnie or flex wheeler; he just had BLUE COLLAR WORK ETHIC BRO."
My homie got a job in Phuket making $60k usd/yr, which is actually good for Thailand (not good for China). He mostly hates it. I'm actually really glad I didn't find a job there when I was looking. The more times I've visited the more I realize how much the locals would drive me completely insane if I lived there. I'd have to be in a carefully curated western/Chinese expat bubble if I went there.
Although the situation isn't great, it's not dire either. I'm making bank and I'm around familiarity with culture/language and generally I really like Chinese people overall. The british boomer/genxers are what make the working environment so aggravating. Xmas I'm not going back to Thailand most likely; I might go back to Suzhou and see some old friends and enjoy some nostalgia from 2015-2017 era. One of my math teacher friends went back after a 5+ year hiatus in Mexico. That place is like the ****ing Island in Lost...
Being somewhat on an expert on Thai people having been there once, I think I could guess (fairly badly) at what you're getting at. Would still be fun to hear what about the locals would drive you insane.
Low future time orientation, high alcoholism and drugs, corruption, even higher inequality than China (China's been improving as the west goes backward in this respect), kind of ugly sounding language, low average IQs, not remotely aspirational, and impulsive. Being a teacher in China is overall great when it comes to students because they usually generally try much harder than students in other countries and are well behaved and disciplined.
America or China: You have a sibling who is a drug addict or alcoholic? You are more or less justified in cutting them out of your life and refusing to support them financially unless they change.
Thailand: Your brother is involved in drugs and in and out of jail? You're a bad daughter if you aren't paying his bail each time and helping with legal fees or bribes.
Low future time orientation, high alcoholism and drugs, corruption, even higher inequality than China (China's been improving as the west goes backward in this respect), kind of ugly sounding language, low average IQs, not remotely aspirational, and impulsive. Being a teacher in China is overall great when it comes to students because they usually generally try much harder than students in other countries and are well behaved and disciplined.
Guessed at some of these, not so much others. I can see why you prefer China.
I can also see myself way overindulging in weed over there. I've been good with near complete alcohol abstinence, but refraining from smoking would be impossible. I think alcohol is more dangerous than steroids and weed is probably more benign than steroids for most normal people, but for somebody with my disposition I'd inevitably become a very heavy user to where whatever damage I do to my life from weed would exceed whatever I've been doing with AAS. Living in a place where it has prohibited status is probably good for me personally.
On the plus side you're past the age where it'd trigger you to be a schizo. So that is a win.
Oh, maybe you misunderstand me. I don't mean with marriage/relationships; in fact that's one area where you generation generally formed a superior culture to millenial/gen z/ gen a. But all this is fairly unimportant. Aphorisms that sound nice but fall apart under scrutiny annoy me, that's basically it. Older people are more likely to engage in this than younger people who get blackpilled by existing in a time that is more difficult in most important ways.
Seems like a relatively minor gripe, all things considered; I think my previous comment still kind of stands, because it's not something I really encounter in day to day life (though I'm not interacting with expat/colonialist Brits, so my mileage definitely varies).
i can imagine in thailand they all assume you're a tourist/sexpat whereas in china you got the benefit of doubt you were living amongst them
was truly incredible seeing over a very short period of time how in beijing they used to just assume i couldn't speak the language and would speak openly about me in front of me as if i wasn't there to later on just assuming correctly that i and everyone else spoke at least some basic chinese
shanghai and shenzhen are the only cities i've been to where chinese seem surprised that you know anything
The british boomer/genxers are what make the working environment so aggravating.
Maybe I missed an important post at some point but I'm not sure what parts of the "boomer/genxer" and/or older millennial cohort is the problem for you.
Do you feel it's an "out of touch with the plight of young people" sort of thing that happens every generation? I assume it's more nuanced than that but I'm not really sure what exact attitude pisses you off and/or rustles your jimmies.
I dunno about the rest of you, but the whole part about looks matching in the blackpill movement seems pretty awesome. Not only am I super smart and well spoken, I must be an incredibly good looking dude on top.
Blackpill is great.
generational hate is lol and goes back to times when Adam's dad prohibited him from ****ing around in the garden and then kicked him and his gf out of the house for a minor transgression, just read Cicero's defense of Rufus or something
I've personally spent my late teens very early 20s trying to fade death by the hands of room temp IQ former Soviet athletes (with a 9-month stint in the Ukrainian Army which was a whole other sort of lol)
so I'm pretty skeptical of current 20-something people living in the richest country that ever existed in the best times ever to be a living human being telling me their lives are terrible because women nowadays like big dicks more
AF,
Perhaps I have your age range wrong but I will ask a couple Qs that are indicative of your true Slav nature (or not):
1) When you pick potato beetle, where does it go?
2) Do you prefer a ~400sqft khrushchevka with indoor plumbing for your immediate family or a ~900sft A-frame soviet approved SFH without plumbing for your immediate family + grandparents + loser sibling (with kids) or in law?
These are the real questions that will let me know whether you've been a true comrade.
NT,
These are extremely important questions, indeed.
I was lucky enough to be born and raised in Odessa by loving and for the most part reasonable parents (who didn't spend a lot of time living together tho), so my dilemma growing up was mostly trying to avoid piano lessons and get in the cold shower before cutoff time (no water between 12-6am)
I didn't realize hot showers were a thing till I was about 13-14
we also lived in a pre-revolution house that my great-grandfather built, and had to share an 8-bedroom only with 3 other families (15 foot ceilings and a separate kitchen, so accommodations were downright palatial compared to many of my contemporaries)
so to answer your question - khruschevka and it's not particularly close imo
never had a chance to try potato beetle soup, unfortunately
yikes, a post about resenting people of a particular who say "bro it's all hard work, genetics don't matter", watch political news television as a form of entertainment 2+ hours a day assuming if their tribe wins the presidential bowl the country will be fixed, and say **** like "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger!" and other meaningless aphorisms got extrapolated into things I didn't mean at all. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
IDK who this alpha fish guy is but I already like him.
And hey, happy world mental health day♥
NT,
These are extremely important questions, indeed.
I was lucky enough to be born and raised in Odessa by loving and for the most part reasonable parents (who didn't spend a lot of time living together tho), so my dilemma growing up was mostly trying to avoid piano lessons and get in the cold shower before cutoff time (no water between 12-6am)
I didn't realize hot showers were a thing till I was about 13-14
we also lived in a pre-revolution house that my great-grandfather built, and had to share an
That does sound quite nice for Soviet times!
Shocked you didn't have your own little potato patch where you picked the bugs off tho (they go in a jar btw)! Wild! Then again Ukraine is overrun with food so perhaps you got the Soviet-lite experience.
Also agree on housing. Gonna skip the character building part when I have to go out in the dead of winter to pump a bucket at 10PM so I can have a glass of water (deliciously cold tho) before bed.
I heard a story about one of the guys who was one of the first people who got a water heater post-Soviet times which he promptly traded for sex with random women. Capitalism at its finest.
All,
So yeah... this is basically what many Eastern European white people grew up with. But my wealthy white friends find it hilarious when folks talk about "white priv" since they literally grew up in what many people in the US would consider one step above homelessness and even very nice environments like AF had were still... spartan to say the least. Yet somehow a bunch are well into the 7 fig net worth by their late 30s just like everywhere else.
I'm pretty sure he actually had sex with them for hot showers. So more like a pros just on the barter system.
Stringing together a lot of very good workouts that I feel like I'm recovering really well from
push
machine press: 2ppsx18, 10, 6
incline db: 30kgx15, 12, 10
machine flies: 3 sets
db prone raises: 4 sets
db skullcrushers: 10kgx23, 4 more sets failure
I have a new plan: I'm only 98-99kg morning weight and looking awfully lean. I'm going to get down to around 96kg just by cleaning up the diet and then start actually upping my steps, adding stimulants, and more aggressively reducing food and probably even some cardio on sat/sun. I think its super realistic to get down to 96ish without really generating a lot of fatigue or having to put in any actual effort into dieting. I could do a show feb/march possibly, since I sure as **** don't want to put anything more than the bare minimum energy into work! I would be so relieved if I managed to get fired but I'm pretty sure a place this desperate for bodies to fill seats would need some severe misconduct to actually fire anyone. Hey, that's how I can build character! Intelligentlly figure out how much I can slack off and bullshit at work without attracting anyone's ire! And frankly, if you're going to stick me with year groups and subjects I have little or no experience with, are you really expecting me to teach at an elite level as though it was the year groups and subjects I've put 9 years into refining and building teaching skill?
I get legit excited when I have one of my 8 class periods of economics each week because I realize I actually really enjoy teaching this subject. I guess when doing it 21-27 periods per week exclusively for years on end and it's become your norm, you don't even realize how enjoyable it is for you until you actually lose it... Character building, bros. Or slipping further into identity crisis depending on one's perspective.
My cousin's family is visiting this weekend so I may miss tomorrow's workout as I go to Shenzhen to meet him.
I think it's a pretty cool shot. I had no idea I looked like this from the back just chilling not flexing at all no pump getting in the zone before squats.
Looks like a potato patch on your arm. JFC
Even with very limited time I had another very good morning workout. Pre workout had a gatorade+2 scoops protein +25g carb worth of gummi worms; got 180g cooked salmon+200g rice+150g green beans ready to eat after a double period of 10th grade economics. Like I said, I'm happy when I get to do the job I actually signed up for.
Chins: bwx17, 10, 9 but very controlled form slight pauses
bb underhand rows: 60kgx10, 8, 6
curls: barx16, 13, 10, 7
All done in around 23 minutes and got an amazing pump tbh. I can definitely do pull workouts in school gym. Can maybe do push if my internal rotation stuff gets healed but that might be still many months more of work and mobbing.
I'm super happy with how strict these chins were. Dr. Mike would be freaking out at how good they look.
lol
