The "LOLCANADA" thread...again
So what's new?
I've noticed the Liberals are now ahead in all major polls and Trudeau hasn't even started to campaign yet...i'd be shocked if they lost the election now.
Just shows just how incompetent Conservatives are.
That's lovely, but more realistically your plan is to return to the status quo of....uh....a couple months ago? Like I get that you are annoyed that the Liberals equalized the taxation regardless of whether a company returns value to shareholders via capital gains or dividends for businesses above that 1.25 million exemption threshold and have rather outsized predications about the effect on the economy. Fine. But it isn't like you are advocating for slashing corporate taxes or small business ta
Yet you want us to believe Canada is having an impact on climate change?? Hmmm
It's baffling all the names arent just released. We could have an election any day and people could vote for these scum.
I'm glad you think the 11 conservative politicians are definitely scum. I however agree with the principle that it is up to the RCMP, CSIS etc to work at arms length from the political wing of the government and to make choices of when or if to charge someone on their own merits. As was described in the hearings there can be a wide range of reasons. For example, there might be a single source suggesting something and revealing the name can burn the source without there yet being a strong enough evidential basis for a charge, leaving an innocent conservative politicians career ruined for insufficient reason. I think it is a good thing that Trudeau is not trying to out names for his own political advantage but instead is letting the processes work on their own as they should.
Of course if Poilievre wants to see the evidence so he triangulate with his own evidence he might have as party leader, he could learn the names tomorrow. He just needs to get clearance. This is the future leader of the country, getting basic security clearance so he can be informed of the issues affecting Canada seems just like absolutely basic obviously yes he should do that.
Did you read the part of the PBO where he estimated that the consumer carbon tax would slash 13 megatonnes of pollution annually from Canada's economy by 2030? It was the same report where he reported his massive error that the economic effects were only HALF of what you previously thought.
When elizabeth may of all people is speaking complete common sense about the supposed common sense conservative leader you gotta wonder wtf is really going on
Hopefully that helps shifty's question in particular.
Did you read the part of the PBO where he estimated that the consumer carbon tax would slash 13 megatonnes of pollution annually from Canada's economy by 2030? It was the same report where he reported his massive error that the economic effects were only HALF of what you previously thought.
And it will have no effect on climate change. It will not reduce forest fires, bring us a white Christmas. Its like about 2% of our total emissions . Bottom line a drop in the bucket when it comes to Canada and a drop in the Ocean when it takes the world into account
Why do you persist with this ridiculous "white christmas" strawman. Nobody thinks that one policy alone in one country alone is enough to change the climate so dramatically. However, each country has a responsibility to reduce it's carbon footprint collectively and in Canada the carbon tax is one of a suite of policies to accomplish that. The consumer carbon tax is about 9% of the paris accord goals (2% is only if the goal was zero emissions). The industrial carbon tax is more important at up do 40% (and shamefully poilievre keeps us in the dark about whether he supports the industrial one or not), along with several other policies it all adds up.
The question you should ask yourself is that if not a carbon tax, what OTHER policy are you going to implement to reduce those emissions. Because as we've seen with the halving of the economic costs, it is probably the most cost-efficient policy to cut that chunk of emissions you can think of. Of course your real plan is to always use the white christmas argument to do nothing at all.
That's lovely, but more realistically your plan is to return to the status quo of....uh....a couple months ago? Like I get that you are annoyed that the Liberals equalized the taxation regardless of whether a company returns value to shareholders via capital gains or dividends for businesses above that 1.25 million exemption threshold and have rather outsized predications about the effect on the economy. Fine. But it isn't like you are advocating for slashing corporate taxes or small business ta
Slashing the federal head count by 10-20% and budget spending downwards is also part of my wishes, which I doubt conservatives will ever do as well because it isn't popular to cut off government spending even when its necessary.
And it will have no effect on climate change. It will not reduce forest fires, bring us a white Christmas. Its like about 2% of our total emissions . Bottom line a drop in the bucket when it comes to Canada and a drop in the Ocean when it takes the world into account
Maybe you should focus on the benefits .
You are great in that usually .
I swear to you , just try …
If you can find some positive in trump, you should easily Can for carbon tax ….
Slashing the federal head count by 10-20% and budget spending downwards is also part of my wishes, which I doubt conservatives will ever do as well because it isn't popular to cut off government spending even when its necessary.
Ya every conservative government in the history of ever promises miraculous efficiency savings that they can cut government spending without deep cuts to services. It never happens. Most just stay at the status quo. Some cut services and make things worse for people. Heck the liberals themselves are in one of their own rounds of austerity looking to shave off billions in spending, including cutting 5000 government workers as per the last budget.
What I'm failing to see in your plan is any direct or immediate way the average person's life is improved. Maybe your conservative orthodoxy is right and returning capital gains taxes to where they were a couple months ago and lowering the deficit (and increasing unemployment) with head count cuts has sort of long term positive economic outlooks. But like, is this REALLY the best possible vision for the future?
Slashing the federal head count by 10-20% and budget spending downwards is also part of my wishes, which I doubt conservatives will ever do as well because it isn't popular to cut off government spending even when its necessary.
But your basing your opinion on what to claim those cuts (precisely 10-20%) are necessary and for the greater good ?
Here is a good one , and certainly not left leaning « opinion ».
According to a recent study published by the Fraser Institute, federal, provincial and local governments in Canada spent $352.1 billion (inflation-adjusted) subsidizing firms from 2007 to 2019—more than was spent on national defence over the same period. This corporate welfare, which does little if anything to stimulate widespread economic growth, came with huge costs to government budgets and Canadian taxpayers.
Such spending might be justified if it led to widespread economic benefits. However, there’s little evidence that business subsidies generate widespread economic growth and/or job creation.
In fact, research suggests that business subsidies may actually hurt the economy as the government’s interference in the market ultimately distorts private decision-making and misallocates resources.
It’s ok to be incessantly pro business and against taxes .
But let’s not forget business do actually have great advantages as well from the government and the taxes they pay for ….
Something oil Industries (and many others) for example always forget to mention .
Even Thomas Mulcair says Trudeau playing politics. Trudeau is having a bad week 4 more cabinet ministers quit. Rumors of 20 + Liberal MPs will go public telling Justin to step down
Sean Casey goes public telling Trudeau to step down
Right now no liberal seat is safe
Broken YouTube LinkYa every conservative government in the history of ever promises miraculous efficiency savings that they can cut government spending without deep cuts to services. It never happens. Most just stay at the status quo. Some cut services and make things worse for people. Heck the liberals themselves are in one of their own rounds of austerity looking to shave off billions in spending, including cutting 5000 government workers as per the last budget.
What I'm failing to see in your plan is any direct
Cutting 5000 workers? He increased headcount by 100 000 under his watch. 5000? That's it?
After slashing government headcount and spending I would also cut income taxes all across the board, increasing the bottom bracket upwards.
But you are right, most governments want to stay in power so they keep the status quo of fat and waste to not rock the boat.
But your basing your opinion on what to claim those cuts (precisely 10-20%) are necessary and for the greater good ?
Here is a good one , and certainly not left leaning « opinion ».
It’s ok to be incessantly pro business and against taxes .
But let’s not forget business do actually have great advantages as well from the government and the taxes they pay for ….
Something oil Industries (and m
30% cut.
Cutting 5000 workers? He increased headcount by 100 000 under his watch. 5000? That's it?
After slashing government headcount and spending I would also cut income taxes all across the board, increasing the bottom bracket upwards.
But you are right, most governments want to stay in power so they keep the status quo of fat and waste to not rock the boat.
You can also cut the amount the government spends on consultants. The liberals broke the bank spending on consultants usually their friends
Well NOW you finally have a policy that actually might help people. Huge applause round to Trudeau of course who lowered the 2nd bracket's rate which is fairly similar idea to what you are suggesting. Of course it wrecks any potential deficit savings you could hypothetically save with your plan (that every government claims to do an d few actually manage it) of cutting headcount. But at least instead of cutting people's services or tweaking how much the rich pay in capital gains this is a policy that helps middle class people.
Well NOW you finally have a policy that actually might help people. Huge applause round to Trudeau of course who lowered the 2nd bracket's rate which is fairly similar idea to what you are suggesting. Of course it wrecks any potential deficit savings you could hypothetically save with your plan (that every government claims to do an d few actually manage it) of cutting headcount. But at least instead of cutting people's services or tweaking how much the rich pay in capital gains this is a polic
All I know is when the carbon tax is gone life will be cheaper for myself even though I live in BC as both provincial parties will axe the tax when Pierre Axes the tax
Well a revenue neutral policy whose fiscal consequence is returning more money to 8/10 canadians and whose economic consequences is half prior prediction is just...uh....not going to make a lot of difference. When your life ISN"T dramatically cheaper perhaps then you will have wished your dear leader had proposed a second policy plank for consideration.
20.4% of Canadians work for the government. LOL what a ponzi sceme. When I saw that number the first time I didn't even think it could be real. Were doing communism better then anyone else
also looks like I was right and the liberal party is pushing him to step down. even tom mulcair the former npc leader is saying his latest attacks on conservatives is not worthy of politics
Lots of Liberal MPs know they will be voted out . Atlantic Canada may be a sweep . Funny how Justin was the savior of the party and now he will be the death of the party
Cutting 5000 workers? He increased headcount by 100 000 under his watch. 5000? That's it?
After slashing government headcount and spending I would also cut income taxes all across the board, increasing the bottom bracket upwards.
But you are right, most governments want to stay in power so they keep the status quo of fat and waste to not rock the boat.
Yeah what blew me away is they have increased it by 43% . Even their spending on consultants increased by 6 billion .
20.4% of Canadians work for the government. LOL what a ponzi sceme. When I saw that number the first time I didn't even think it could be real. Were doing communism better then anyone else
What does this include, like is it nurses and teachers and police etc? Because we just saw a chart showing 360,000 federal workers which isn’t the same number.
