MSMTT quick checkup thread

Hi guys!

I'm a former SNG grinder haven't played online in several years, getting back this year playing mostly bounty tournaments on GG Poker. What confuses me is how much calling and shoving ranges change due to bounty?

Hand in question:
Middle stage of tournament, near the bubble but not there yet. Villain has stats 32/21/5 ATS 100 over 135 hands. So this means he's raising/shoving every button and small blind. He has 15BB, I have 50BB. He has solid bounty on him but nothing crazy.

It folds to villain in small blind, he shoves. I have 56dd what now?

First step. Calculate what the bounty is worth in chips. Add that to the pot. Say, for argument sake the bounty is worth 5BB. You are calling 14 to win a pot that is worth 35BBs. You would need about 40% equity in this spot. Get yourself a free range calculator, like this:

https://openpokertools.com/range-equity....

Put your hand and Villain's range in and see what you get. I gave Villain a 37% range, and we are about 38.5% vs that range. If he is shoving ATC you are about 43%.

One of the things I like to do in these spots when analyzing after the fact is solve for what range he'd need to be shoving for our call to break even; here it is about 69% of hands. Do we think Villain is shoving more/less than this? Then we call/fold base on that assumption.

The above doesn't take future game into account, nor ICM.

In a bounty tournament, it is vital to cover other stacks so that we can access other bounties. If the rest of the table has 15ish BBs, calling and losing here won't cost us much. If they have 35-50 BB stacks, losing the ability to get other bounties can be quite bad.

In a different scenario, where you have say 20BBs and there are a lot of 30ish BB stacks, you can call off much lighter, as now you will be able to access bounties that you couldn't before this hand.

You said middle stages of the tournament, so there is some ICM, but not much.

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Thank you. Great analysis.

Hi Friends:

I played a monthly $350 local donkament yesterday and I have a bunch of hands to review. Here is the first.
My image is tight aggressive - opening a lot - but getting respect nonetheless. It seemed like everyone knew each other and were regulars at the club.

LEVEL 3 (Early Stages)

Hero min open KsTs from UTG w 160bb 8 handed.

I am using the min size to keep the SPR low - as about half the stacks were playing 30-60bb behind.

LJ calls, BU calls, SB calls, BB calls.

KdKhAc - 11bb

SB leads for 3bb. BB calls, Hero calls, LJ folds, BU calls.

KdKhAc (6s) - 23bb

SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 15bb, BU shoves for his remaining 44bb, SB folds, BB folds, Hero?

BU was a wealthy retired fellow, chatting with the dealers, showing off his house he just bought in Phoenix, was playing TAGGY and seemed to know something about pokerz.

I'm guessing mathematically it's a call - but if I am going to be exploitive it's a fold obviously... If it were IGGY I'd be snap calling - but with his stats which likely looked something like 16/11 ... I might even fold online as well... anyway - was my first "tough" hand of the donkament lol. Personally I don't like making hero folds especially when I cover.

Not loving it but could be a lower suited king which makes sense. Aces don't make sense nor do pocket sixes. Our kicker is right on the line, definitely calling KQ/KJ and folding the lower kings. Wealthy retired fellows can show up with bluffs from time to time, we might have chop outs, and we're getting almost 3:1. Think it's a sigh call

Thank you LNF ... do you consider KT a low king? Also why are you eliminating 66 from his range?

Who overcalls an AKK flop after a bet and two calls with 66? A player who is "TAGGY and seemed to know something about poker"? You really think so?

Fold

By lower I meant below KT. We are beat a lot by KQ/KJ but don't think we can lay it down considering odds and the overcall pre.

Your preflop read is that you are getting a lot of respect for your raises. Yet, you go to a flop 4 ways after an UTG raise...

The bottom line here is this. Villain has Kx almost always. Is he calling preflop with Kxs? Then you have a call (but still not by a lot, K5s implies all KQ/KJo, IMO). If he isn't calling those hands, and he shouldn't be...this is a fold.

No ... that was the read before the hand ... admittedly being results oriented because that's what he showed up with and I was like :0 ...

Hi Guys ... We are still in the re-entry period long before the money - about 66 entries in a weekend warrior $350 buy in weekly event.

It's nine handed.

I have KK with about 55bb in LJ; I iso (5bb) an ep limper. The BU calls and both blinds call.

5 ways with 25bb in the pot: QT4r ... I bet almost big - 20bb - probably calling if I am shoved on - there are some wealthy recs at this table who can easily pile with AQ, T, 89, expecting to rebuy if they're behind and don't improve. I plan on shoving pretty much any turn except maybe an ace - depending on who calls my cbet here - and only the button calls. This player late regged and was decked from head to toe in Aria and Bellagio gear. I wouldn't be surprised if he's one of the wealthy recs. Well, OTT that pesky ace drops completing the rainbow. I checked and this fella shoved - putting me all in - rather quickly. I have I had about 30bb behind lots of play left in the tourney not even having made it to the first break.

I folded.

Too big on the flop. Multi way, and with an spr of 2, no need to bet 80p. I’d bet 10-12 BB.

Turn fold seems fine. He isn’t betting worse for value. Not too many bluffs and he might have shoved the flop with some of them.

I think I’m calling. He’s basically repping AJ?

AQ and TT could certainly take this line. (Even though we block KJ and it would take two somewhat loose calls to get there with it, the line makes sense to me with KJ, too.)

I'm not sure AJ calls that flop bet given the sizing and the remaining stack behind.

Two day tournament - we’re in day 2 and in the min-cash steps. Prizes climb slowly for the next 20 exits.
10k/20k/20k
Hero is effective stack with 770k having just doubled up vs villain with AQ v JJ.
Villain is interesting and we’ve sat with him for the last hour or so of day1 and seen some tendency to go off-piste.

Villain opens to 100k from UTG
We have 99…

Notes - from day1 we’ve seen similar sizing with deuces, sevens and jacks…

What's our position? These 5x ranges don't need to get defended much. While you saw 22 on day 1, I think it is less likely to be a hand like that, and more a pair slightly higher than yours.

If we are UTG+1, I'd just make a tight fold and tell no one.

MP on a 9-handed table.

Folding is obviously better than calling. Raise can only be one size right?

Actually, I’m probably calling.

Interested what a solver does vs 5x pre.

How much does he have? Jamming 40 BB here seems like an overplay to me.

Solver probably generates a blue screen!

Calling feels like a bad option, what do we do on a flop without a 9?

He just about covers

Yeah, I guess we can call and see how it goes. We’ve got position and we’re likely to have a very easy decision on the flop.

At the time, in possibly not the best state of mind having had minimal sleep the night before, I decided it was all of the chips or none.

So now we’re at call>fold>jam? We don’t have any non all-in raises?