Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
Nate's posts seem fine.
Not sure how saying he has a different version should be considered problematic.
"I have discovered a truly marvellous demonstration of this proposition that this text box is too small to contain”
So, since you interjected your comment into a back and forth I was having, and your comment could very reasonably be interpreted as responding to my post, quote who you were talking to then. How long have you been posting on this (or any) forum?
Btw i looked at CN recent messages as suggested by jalfrezi, but i couldn't find the message where she explaines why rafiki was banned
So, since you interjected your comment into a back and forth I was having, and your comment could very reasonably be interpreted as responding to my post, quote who you were talking to then. How long have you been posting on this (or any) forum?
Multiple people raised issue with Nate's post. I was responding to the issue at large and not any specific post, hence not quoting any specific poster.
It’s not very juicy. The usual complainers were complaining in here; Rafiki made a few posts gloating that he had certain people on ignore, I made a joke (not entirely without suspicion tbh) that I was beginning to wonder if it was actually Rafiki on the account. Rafiki immediately assumed I was accusing him of multiaccounting as a new poster, IMBLUEtheONE, and subsequently ble
Btw i looked at CN recent messages as suggested by jalfrezi, but i couldn't find the message where she explaines why rafiki was banned
There is still of course the issue of what information Rafiki was trying to blackmail Cross over.
As a segue, I have had it happen on more than one occasion in halcyon days of yore, where I was openly posting on a "dupe" account where all the mods of the forums I was posting in knew exactly who I was; and would wake up one day to find I was banned by random mods from other forums that were doing IP check sweeps, I guess out of boredom.
So rafiki was just "I know what you did last summer" and didn't specify?
That's bad and demonstrates low character. I don't think perma is right or even strategic insofar as the ban was not a self-ban. After all, it would be trivial for rafiki to start a new account, evade detection, and do whatever he threatened. But whatever, good people can disagree on whether it should be a perms or what good strategy is.
What interests me as far as it is a reflection on you CN, is, was this a perma just because of his actions, or because they were directed at a mod? If one of us PMs another one of us “I KNOW, you don’t think I KNOW??”, is that a perma?
As a segue, I have had it happen on more than one occasion in halcyon days of yore, where I was openly posting on a "dupe" account where all the mods of the forums I was posting in knew exactly who I was; and would wake up one day to find I was banned by random mods from other forums that were doing IP check sweeps, I guess out of boredom.
tldr, you are Kelhus, right?
So rafiki was just "I know what you did last summer" and didn't specify? That's bad and demonstrates low character. I don't think perma is right or even strategic insofar as the ban was not a self-ban. After all, it would be trivial for rafiki to start a new account, evade detection, and do whatever he threatened. But whatever, good people can disagree on whether it should b
He specifically gave me the ultimatum to apologize or perma. And I did send a copy of the entire interaction to another mod for review.
But to answer your hypothetical, I would look very harshly at abusive PMs being sent between posters. That’s just not a thing that should be happening here.
CN,
I don't necessarily expect the question before last to be answered. I understand it's possible there's something here that's none of our business and you just want to let it go. Just a point that I would hope you would agree on is that an offense directed at a mod is in no way worse than the same offense directed at a non-mod.
He specifically gave me the ultimatum to apologize or perma. And I did send a copy of the entire interaction to another mod for review.
But to answer your hypothetical, I would look very harshly at abusive PMs being sent between posters. That’s just not a thing that should be happening here.
Thx. I typed my last post without seeing this.
CN,
I don't necessarily expect the question before last to be answered. I understand it's possible there's something here that's none of our business and you just want to let it go. Just a point that I would hope you would agree on is that an offense directed at a mod is in no way worse than the same offense directed at a non-mod.
I absolutely agree. If anything I think I was allowing behavior directed toward me because I’m a mod that I wouldn’t allow to be directed toward another poster, and that’s not tolerable for me in terms of setting my own healthy boundaries.
For example, I wouldn’t tolerate a regular poster trolling another poster that they can’t tell Jews apart and must think they all look the same, so why am I tolerating that when it’s directed toward me? That’s not questioning authority; that’s just being an ******* because you think I’ll have to take it. I don’t.
How about if the POGers just took their nevernending drama back to POG?
Multiple people raised issue with Nate's post. I was responding to the issue at large and not any specific post, hence not quoting any specific poster.
Just the pitchfork crew...as in who cares.
Still waiting for Trolly to tell me what I'm lying about (he seems to have forgotten about the claim). At least that is somewhat interesting to me.
I made a joke (not entirely without suspicion tbh) that I was beginning to wonder if it was actually Rafiki on the account.
I would suggest that in a thread specifically labeled for moderation questions that it is poor form for a mod to make jokes like that. Not that in the end it would have changed this situation, but it's not a good look.
#IStandWithCrossnerd
I would generally agree it was probably in bad taste (poor modding form?) to make that joke in that thread towards that poster. A gaff if you will
Having a manic outburst where you are spamming threads and blasting off PMs to a bunch of different people is how unhinged individuals respond to a gaff.
Geez, some guys are having problems with...... every thing.
Some posters just want to have fun. But their definition of fun goes against common sense decency. Thus the common statement "X just banned himself". You may agree or disagree but as Rococo and others have stated.... it's pretty easy to post your thoughts without getting banned around here. If you don't want to get perma-banned, don't post things that will get you perma-banned.
IMO, there should be zero tolerance for anyone that steps over that line in the sand. Zero. The fact that the line is ever-changing in some of your minds is amazing. Don't post in a *****ty manner. I also have a problem with posters that jump all over CN. She's doing great and is moderating to the best of her abilities...as we all do. We mods are all human and can be expected to do human things. And.... we aren't going to change.
Lighten Up, Frances' of the P&S forum.
