Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
I'm pretty sure the "Trump supporters are garbage" sentiment has always been allowed in this forum. As has "Biden supporters are garbage". But we all know that's not what you're asking. You want to know exactly which groups it's OK to call garbage and which it isn't.
I thought the same before i got banned for 2 weeks for showing a lack of empathy toward a portion of trump supporters, so given that i need some clarification about rules here. And i have been told saying they were "low quality lives" was a bannable offense, so i need to understand why garbage (extended to all trump voters, not a small slice who believes in crazy things) doesn't qualify
various people are saying they agree with Biden saying that trump supporters are garbage, i'd like to know if this is allowed or not in this forum and if it is allowed (given no mod intervened yet), if the same is allowed if others important politicians say bad things about other groups
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I thought the same before i got banned for 2 weeks for showing a lack of empathy toward a portion of trump supporters, so given that i need some clarification about rules here
Oh, we're playing the game where you pretend that you don't understand the difference between "Trump supporters are garbage" and "It'd be a good thing if Trump supporters removed themselves from the gene pool owing to their own stupidity"? Cool, cool.
Trust me bro, you're not the only one who has to self censor on this forum. If I said some of the things I want to say, and is even regularly said in my circle of friends, I'd get insta booted. So, you know, gotta respect the house rules.
Oh, we're playing the game where you pretend that you don't understand the difference between "Trump supporters are garbage" and "It'd be a good thing if Trump supporters removed themselves from the gene pool owing to their own stupidity"? Cool, cool.
Garbage is something you want to dispose of, the disposal of is a moral and practically useful act, so yes, what's the difference? and btw i never claimed "it'd be a good thing", i claimed "i could care less"
Oh, we're playing the game where you pretend that you don't understand the difference between "Trump supporters are garbage" and "It'd be a good thing if Trump supporters removed themselves from the gene pool owing to their own stupidity"? Cool, cool.
Trust me bro, you're not the only one who has to self censor on this forum. If I said some of the things I want to say, and is even regularly said in my circle of friends, I'd get insta booted. So, you know, gotta respect the house rules.
Garbage is something you want to dispose of, the disposal of is a moral and practically useful act, so yes, what's the difference? and btw i never claimed "it'd be a good thing", i claimed "i could care less"
D2 is right and you have to accept the bias of the moderation and just deal with it.
Garbage is something you want to dispose of, the disposal of is a moral and practically useful act, so yes, what's the difference? and btw i never claimed "it'd be a good thing", i claimed "i could care less"
You seem miserably unhappy posting anywhere where you aren’t allowed to advocate for mass execution and totalitarianism without punishment and seem desperate to try to pervert your interpretation of your own punishments to take down the leftists and making yourself a hero by exposing moderation and taking down the leftists and somehow even more miserably unhappy posting when you fail
Why not go somewhere on the Internet where you can be happy?
Garbage is something you want to dispose of, the disposal of is a moral and practically useful act, so yes, what's the difference? and btw i never claimed "it'd be a good thing", i claimed "i could care less"
I mean, look, it's not for me to teach you basic human decency, but most people see a clear delineation between being contemptuous of someone and wishing death upon them, or even expressing a clear apathy if they were to die as a result of a natural disaster combined with their own stupidity. I'm probably more sympathetic to your view in this spot than most here, but I find it hard to believe that you truly don't get this. You're a bit smarter than that.
I mean, look, it's not for me to teach you basic human decency, but most people see a clear delineation between being contemptuous of someone and wishing death upon them, or even expressing a clear apathy if they were to die as a result of a natural disaster combined with their own stupidity. I'm probably more sympathetic to your view in this spot than most here, but I find it hard to believe that you truly don't get this. You're a bit smarter than that.
The moral equivalence that contempt is just as bad as thinking they deserve to die seems to also imply in luciom’s mind anyone he has contempt for deserves to die
Which, you know, is a pretty dangerous way to go through life. In fact I’m pretty sure I’m not even the first or second person ITT to make that connection
Garbage is something you want to dispose of, the disposal of is a moral and practically useful act, so yes, what's the difference? and btw i never claimed "it'd be a good thing", i claimed "i could care less"
If you are concerned that you haven’t gotten your racist viewpoints into the record with your posts, don’t worry, we have seen them.
Actually it's limited only by Luciom's broadband connection during the increasingly rare periods when he's not banned.
Yeah, not really. Luciom is pretty mild as far as internet fascists go. Calling him all sorts of names only serves to diminish the impact of those names when you start applying them to the people who have actually earned them. But we all know that the self-righteous left is pretty good at taking the slightest sliver of anything that they can plausibly perceive as an expression of desire to oppress someone, somewhere and blowing it out of all proportion.
I don't think we've seen Luciom Unchained yet, apart from the odd occasion when he let his guard slip such as referring to groups of immigrants as animals.
It doesn't take much to read between the lines that he does post.
I don't think we've seen Luciom Unchained yet, apart from the odd occasion when he let his guard slip such as referring to groups of immigrants as animals.
It doesn't take much to read between the lines that he does post.
What I'm reading between the lines, well, actually not really even "between", is that he completely lacks empathy and is possibly a psychopath. I am reading that he holds anyone who doesn't share his political views and/or doesn't improve his life by virtue of their existence in contempt. I am reading that he doesn't really much care to those he holds in contempt, and if they cause him the slightest inconvenience he'd be happy to eliminate them from contention permanently. None of these views make for a particularly pleasant human being, IMO, but I don't think they are the same as fascism, Nazism, eugenics and suchlike. He's not promoting actively targeting any group for persecution or worse, he's just a psycho who doesn't give a **** about anyone but himself.
Nah, his favourite targets are immigrants and "Marxists". You need to rework that paragraph but the psycho take is right.
Nah, his favourite target is immigrants. You need to rework that paragraph because the psycho bit is right.
How is he proposing targeting them? By not letting as many of them in in the first place? Not really a targeted persecution campaign, and a pretty mainstream view at that. If he's proposing something else, then looks like I missed it.
If you are concerned that you haven’t gotten your racist viewpoints into the record with your posts, don’t worry, we have seen them.
Here ya go, Luc.
The post by jjj is correct.
And it is the reason your "rope" is a LOT shorter than others.
Spoiler
Take it somewhere else if you are offended. 2+2 may not be your best avenue for presenting your manifesto.
How is he proposing targeting them? By not letting as many of them in in the first place? Not really a targeted persecution campaign, and a pretty mainstream view at that. If he's proposing something else, then looks like I missed it.
By supporting laws he hopes governments will pass prohibiting behaviour and espousing values that are at odds with the "native culture", punishable by death, en masse for greater efficiency.
You haven't been paying attention.
We could always ask Lucio if he's pro-eugenics and lol at his evasive response.
Let's not, Trolleycar
Let's assume he is. His choices are to say "yes" and get himself banned, or say "no" and get accused of lying to avoid getting banned.
Let's assume he isn't. His choices are to say "no" and get accused of lying to avoid getting banned.
Asking him is not a particularly reliable indicator either way, by the looks of it. Neither is there really any point to answering, from his POV. Nobody is going to believe him anyway.
