Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic failed, and it became a general discussion thread with almost no moderation related posts at all. And those that were posted were so buried in non-mod posts that it became a huge time drain on the mods to sort through them. Then, when off topic posts were deleted posters complained about that.
This led to the closing of the mod discussion thread, replaced by the post report/pm approach. This has filtered out lots of noise, but has resulted at times in the General Discussion Thread turning into a quasi-mod thread. This is not desirable, but going back to the old mod thread is also not a workable option.
Therefore, I have created this new moderation thread, but with a different purpose and ground rules than previous mod threads. The purpose of this thread is to provide a place for posters to pose questions to the mods about how policies are applied; to bring to the mods attention posts they think are inappropriate and reach the level of requiring mod action; and for mods to communicate to posters things like changes or clarifications to policies, bannings, etc.
Now let me tell you what this thread is NOT a place for. It is not for nonmoderation related posts, even if the discussion originates from a comment in in a mod related post. It is not for posters to post their opinions about other posters or whether a poster should be banned. It is not to rehash past grievances about mod decisions from months or years ago. The focus of this thread will be recent posts that require action now. Or questions about current policies and enforcement.
So basically, this is a thread to ask mods questions. Which means, pretty much that only mods should be answering those questions. If a poster asks why a particular post was deleted or allowed, only a mod can answer that. Everyone else who wants to jump in with their opinion or their mod war story needs to stay out of it. It just increases the noise to signal ratio and does nothing to answer the question.
Everyone needs to understand that this thread has very different rules than the old mod thread and any other thread. Any non-moderation post will be deleted on sight. Not moved to the appropriate thread, just deleted. So don't waste your time crafting a masterpiece post about wars or transgender issues or the presidential election and then post it in this thread. It will be gone. Also, this isnt a thread for general commentary about our mods performance. Posting "browser sucks as a mod" or any such posts that don't actually ask about a policy or request a mod action will be deleted. Everyone is entitled to their opinion about the moderation of this forum. But this thread isnt for complaining about mods. You are free to go to the ATF forum and make your concerns about modding in this forum there.
So with that intro, this thread is open for those who need to bring questions about mod policies or bring inappropriate posts to the mods attention. Again, it is NOT a thread for group discussions about other posters or for other posters to answer questions directed to mods.
We'll see how this goes. If you have what you feel is an open issue raised in the General Discussion Thread, please copy that post or otherwise reintroduce the issue here.
Thanks.
I am reading psychotic takes about me being a psycho by you and even more insane takes by jalfrezi about what I purportedly wrote that I can't dignify with answers.
The part about you not caring about anyone but yourself and your family and not having any empathy are pretty much what you said yourself. That's pretty much the definition of a psycho.
Let's assume he is. His choices are to say "yes" and get himself banned, or say "no" and get accused of lying to avoid getting banned.
Let's assume he isn't. His choices are to say "no" and get accused of lying to avoid getting banned.
Either way, asking him is not a particularly reliable indicator either way, by the looks of it. Neither is there really any point to answering, from his POV. Nobody is going to believe him anyway.
Anyone who is in favor of allowing abortions of down syndrome babies (or other fetuses with severe genetic illnesses) is objectively, semantically pro eugenetics so i think that applies to me as well as the vast majority of people writing in this forum (only very few are against allowing aborting fetuses with serious genetic problems).
How is this even controversial?
If the question is about government mandated eugenetics of any kind (forcible abortions, government sterilization of people based on their genetic makeup and so on), it's also very easy to answer: I am against any and all government mandated eugenetics.
Here ya go, Luc.
The post by jjj is correct.
And it is the reason your "rope" is a LOT shorter than others.
Spoiler
Take it somewhere else if you are offended. 2+2 may not be your best avenue for presenting your manifesto.
Sorry I don't understand what my "rope" has to do with the fact that people are saying trump voters are garbage.
If you are telling me that forum rules don't forbid calling trump voters garbage ok, but why can't you answer the question explicitly? I am asking a rule question in the moderation thread.
If you want to get examined by experts, I'm willing to bet d2 £1000 (for charity) that you're not a pyschopath
I'm good man. Colloquially, people who lack empathy and are purely out for self-interest are called psychopaths or sociopaths, never really got the difference. I wasn't making a medical diagnosis.
If you want to get examined by experts, I'm willing to bet d2 £1000 (for charity) that you're not a pyschopath
I don't know enough about psychological diagnoses to make any sort of bet on that kind of thing.
The two most objectionable things I remember Luciom saying are that: (i) he never internalizes costs paid by others and doesn't care about costs paid by others because he isn't a "leftist"; and (ii) Kyle Rittenhouse was a hero because he found a legal way to kill "Marxists."
Luciom already called migrants from Africa coming to Italy "garbage people". Everyone knows what he thinks about this. It's really stupid to save the audience here from reading whatever he types when it's clear enough what he thinks.
Please Luciom, say what you feel and if you get banned just make a new account and do whatever IP spoofing/VPN you need to do if necessary.
Poor Luciom could not have expected when he revived this thread to try to get d2 and me banned for something Biden said that this would be the direction this thread has gone in
Do you dumbos know why fascist sites are fascist? It's not because they allow fascists. It's because they ban anti-fascists.
Poor Luciom could not have expected when he revived this thread to try to get d2 and me banned for something Biden said that this would be the direction this thread has gone in
I am not trying to get anyone banned, I am trying to get rules being clarified explicitly even if it's about a specific asymmetry of treatment between leftwing and rightwing takes, at least let's have it explicitly pointed out.
Luciom already called migrants from Africa coming to Italy "garbage people". Everyone knows what he thinks about this. It's really stupid to save the audience here from reading whatever he types when it's clear enough what he thinks.
Please Luciom, say what you feel and if you get banned just make a new account and do whatever IP spoofing/VPN you need to do if necessary.
You keep reviving that claim without mentioning the fact that I explicitly addressed criminals. Which btw iirc it was why I wasn't banned for that.
And what's good for society, Luciom spending his time arguing with people here or spending his time in a fascist echo chamber?
I am reading psychotic takes about me being a psycho by you and even more insane takes by jalfrezi about what I purportedly wrote that I can't dignify with answers.
Re. Palestinins:
There's at least one other convo I haven't found yet where the idea of the government legalising mass exterminations of immigrants takes root.
But anyway, I want Luciom here and speaking his honest mind, mainly for the lolz but also because he's not influencing anyone here.
To answer your question, Luciom, no I do not think it’s acceptable to refer to human beings as “garbage”, I disagree with Biden having said something so callous and thoughtless about our own citizens, and if posts are made here referring to other *people* as garbage they will be moderated in kind. I don’t care which side of the aisle is big mad; people are not garbage.
Obviously when the president says something so colossally stupid, it’s going to be discussed, so discuss it in that context. But no you may not refer to other posters or demographics of people as garbage here.
And please stop calling each other things like psychopath and insane etc. Its totally inappropriate.
But as long as they're calling a Trump supporter names, it's ok, right?
You infracted me for telling someone they suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome, a mental illness but it's ok for people to call me every name in the book such as a scumbag? That's very hypocritical. I'm not complaining about being called these things (nor do I care), just pointing out your hypocrisy.
Here is an example
To answer your question, Luciom, no I do not think it’s acceptable to refer to human beings as “garbage”, I disagree with Biden having said something so callous and thoughtless about our own citizens, and if posts are made here referring to other *people* as garbage they will be moderated in kind. I don’t care which side of the aisle is big mad; people are not garbage.
Obviously when the president says something so colossally stupid, it’s going to be discussed, so discuss it in that context. But
Several posts were made referring that and agreeing explicitly.
Ofc the topic has to be discussed, I was just asking about people explicitly, transparently, saying they agreed with the president.
So can people say "I do agree with Biden calling every trump supporter garbage" yes/no?
In particular some of them saying "given who the MAGA people in the forum are" they agreed with it, so directly calling them garbage.
But as long as they're calling a Trump supporter names, it's ok, right?
You infracted me for telling someone they suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome, a mental illness but it's ok for people to call me every name in the book such as a scumbag? That's very hypocritical. I'm not complaining about being called these things (nor do I care), just pointing out your hypocrisy.
Here is an example
Lol. I knew that would come up. I got a warning for that, so the hypocrisy is in your imagination.
Anyway, it's just shorthand for someone who constantly bullshits, ignores it when their posts are debunked like it didn't happen and continues to spread the same bullshit propaganda, and is generally a dishonest and disingenuous poster. You tell me what name I should call use for that sort of behaviour.
I know you think that this behaviour is perfectly acceptable since you constantly engage in it, but whatever name you come up with has to have some negative connotations, since, despite your illusions to the contrary, this behaviour is very much frowned upon by society.
I mean if the trash fits in the garbage can…
Lol, looks like a bunch of people "liked" that post PB linked that I've never even seen post here or heard of. Probably libtards, PB, or deep state something somethings.
But as long as they're calling a Trump supporter names, it's ok, right?
You infracted me for telling someone they suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome, a mental illness but it's ok for people to call me every name in the book such as a scumbag? That's very hypocritical. I'm not complaining about being called these things (nor do I care), just pointing out your hypocrisy.
Here is an example
You got infracted for calling folks here with TDS I am skeptical on that as many here do suffer from that
Remember when they closed the politics forum because right wingers wouldn't stop whining?
