Israel/Palestine thread
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Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
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Why wonder?
come to Israel and find out. there are hundreds of hundreds of Muslim owned restaurants all over, with people wearing Keffiyehs.
Hack, my favorite restaurant in Haifa is owned by a chef that loves wearing Keffiyehs. the only time I voiced a concern about it was when he wore a Keffiyeh during august. it is really hot here in august.
Yes, those people are Israeli, but that's not really what he was talking about. He was really talking about doing it in a Jewish/Israeli restaurant in, say, Los Angeles or Oakland, but out of curiosity, what if someone wore a keffiyeh into a Jewish restaurant in Israel and maybe not just one that happens to be owned by a Jewish person, but like Orthodox or something patriotic or somehow going out of its way to be Jewish/Israeli?
you were specifically mentioning Israeli restaurants.
Unlike you, we actually live with arabs, work with them and share our lives.
your constant attempt to paint us as some white supremacist or whatever, has no real connection to the real world
Yes, those people are Israeli, but that's not really what he was talking about. He was really talking about doing it in a Jewish/Israeli restaurant in, say, Los Angeles or Oakland, but out of curiosity, what if someone wore a keffiyeh into a Jewish restaurant in Israel and maybe not just one that happens to be owned by a Jewish person, but like Orthodox or something patriotic or somehow going out of its way to be Jewish/Israeli?
we have real anti discrimination laws that are enforced very strictly.
One will loose his business and maybe his freedom for refusing service based on religion, race and such.
as long as I avoid pictures of mangled bodies. Multiple thousands of children die horrible deaths from disease and malnutrition every single day which are easily preventable. What people actually care about is not unrelated to human suffering, but it's certainly not just finding the suffering in the world and caring in direct proportion - not for most people.
That's why the mods won't let us post photos of dead toddlers with half their heads blown off.
you were specifically mentioning Israeli restaurants.
Unlike you, we actually live with arabs, work with them and share our lives.
your constant attempt to paint us as some white supremacist or whatever, has no real connection to the real world
I do live in a pretty diverse area. It's not the part of the country with the most Arab-Americans, but there are about 100k in the county I live in.
I worked at a place where the two owners were Israeli Jews and everyone else working there besides me was Palestinian - in Los Angeles.
That's why the mods won't let us post photos of dead toddlers with half their heads blown off.
I've seen pictures, so it's not like I'm burying my head in the sand and I think I do a fair job of thinking about the many killed and injured people before bloviating about what I think the situation is and what should be done...but I don't want to look at pictures of blown up or shot up bodies every day.
exactly - Israeli owned business employees arabs even in the states.
In israel its not an encounter by chance, but we actually are fully integrated. there are many cities that both arabs and jews live together.
that is the logical fallacy of this entire debate - how can Israeli's be on one hand racist towards arabs, and on the other hand actually share our lives in such a way?
one would start to think - maybe its not about racism, but there is another reason for the conflict?
FFS- there are arabs in the IDF, including regiments of muslim arabs. try explaining that?
lol, any American close to any large-mid-size US city lives and works with Arab-Americans. Unlike Israel we don't have Palestinian Bantustans.
But go ahead and keep spinning lies.
ever been to an arab wedding? ever celebrated Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha with muslims? ever went on vacation with arabs?
Cause i have just described a regular year of any Israeli.
dont bother answering. your mask was uncovered already.
In israel its not an encounter by chance, but we actually are fully integrated. there are many cities that both arabs and jews live together.
Except for the Arabs that are kept penned up in Gaza.
Not to blow your mind here but every single US city has Arabs, Jews, and what have you living together. Even the alleged "no-go zones" featured on Fox News. It's wild that you think this is some kind of flex.
Please explain in detail what this crack is supposed to mean.
exactly - Israeli owned business employees arabs even in the states.
In israel its not an encounter by chance, but we actually are fully integrated. there are many cities that both arabs and jews live together.
that is the logical fallacy of this entire debate - how can Israeli's be on one hand racist towards arabs, and on the other hand actually share our lives in such a way?
one would start to think - maybe its not about racism, but there is another reason for the conflict?
FFS- there are arabs i
I dunno man. You're very difficult to talk to because I think you're talking to me and victor and jalfrezi and trolly all at the same time in the same post when responding to just one of us. Try talking normal.
Except for the Arabs that are kept penned up in Gaza.
Not to blow your mind here but every single US city has Arabs, Jews, and what have you living together. Even the alleged "no-go zones" featured on Fox News. It's wild that you think this is some kind of flex.
Please explain in detail what this crack is supposed to mean.
you live next to arabs, we live with arabs, understand the difference?
and just to spoil your claims, my father was an american and most of my family lives in the states. I have an american citizenship and actually lived for a couple of years in the states.
im sure that you on the other hand, have no idea how most of the world lives. have you ever travelled to a different continent?
your number is way off and ofc sorry we are better at protecting our civilians.
would you be happy if Hezbollah, Hamas and the IRI managed to kill more of us?
You are much better at murdering kids in cold blood, I agree. Would you like to see some photos of your handiwork?
And I'd be happiest if Palestinians had their state and Israel didn't kill anyone.
Many many many. there are entire industries that are "arabs", that employee jews.
there are many arab business moguls.
my law office is in a huge office building that is owned by an arab.
my biggest client is an arab that has more land, buildings and different business, than any body I know.
one of my closest friends is an arab Israeli Doctor, that has a private clinic and employees many jews.
I can go on...
No, and I'm quite sure you don't either. I've lived in a house with a Lebanese guy, not that it matters.
America in 2024 is arguably the most culturally diverse society in history, Israel is an apartheid pariah state. Just take the L and move on, bud.
and just to spoil your claims, my father was an american and most of my family lives in the states. I have an american citizenship and actually lived for a couple of years in the states.
So?
He's just proving that most Israelis are of recent European or American ancestry and the whole far right blood and soil thing is 100% racist bullshiit to justify a huge land grab and apartheid against the Arabs.
You are much better at murdering kids in cold blood, I agree. Would you like to see some photos of your handiwork?
And I'd be happiest if Palestinians had their state and Israel didn't kill anyone.
ofc you diverse, but please lets say on subject.
I will like to give you all an example, im sure most of you are unaware of, that explains the lengh in which you ensure civilians safety, and why we have somewhat of low death rate.
In Israel, any new building that is being built, and any renovation that includes a an addition of at least 12 meters to the building, residential or not, it is mandated by The Planning and Construction Law, to build also a safe room with at least 30 centimeters of hard cement and Iron. we call this rooms MAMAD (hebrew initials for protected space).
the room is around 9-12 square meters.
that is a very expensive room, which averages at around 150,000 NIS, or around 40,000$ (just for one room). every house, every office, every building has this rooms.
that is mandated and you cannot receive a permit without building such room. even in arab villages that is required.
whenever rockets are fired onto Israel, we all enter our MAMADS.
that is one more measure that we take to protect civilians.
He's just proving that most Israelis are of recent European or American ancestry and the whole far right blood and soil thing is 100% racist bullshiit to justify a huge land grab and apartheid against the Arabs.
are Moroccans jews European?
Ethiopians jews?
Syrian jews?
Iraqi Jews?
Bucharim?
should I go on?
ashkenazi jews are a minority in Israel, of around 30%, but who cares about the facts
That's very nice for you and gives extra EV to the rockets you fire at Palestinian tents and into Lebanon. Well done.
