2024 ELECTION THREAD

True hermaphrodites are so rare there is no generalised characteristic beyond the presence of male and female tissue. As far as I'm aware, there have been no cases of human hermaphrodites with functioning reproductive anatomy of both sexes.

Hermaphrodite is not really a term used in biology anymore as we have a much more comprehensive understanding of DSDs, enabling specific categorisation according to features of each disorder.

Good luck choosing between a mental grifter tyrant and a somewhat nice lady without much charisma, USA! Hope it goes without any fuss!

I thought we were talking about classification, not evolution. My point is that what interests us about classifying specifically humans into biological sex categories is primarily going to come down to sexual dimorphism and gender roles, of which the production of gametes is an important but not all-encompassing aspect of classification.

Right, but we don't "classify humans into biological sex categories". Biological sex categories exist whether humans categorise them or not. Furthermore, there are large phenotypical sex differences between males and females, particularly in mammals. Males tend to be stronger, bigger and faster than women, and therefore it seems reasonable to protect human females from males in arenas such as professional sport and prisons.

fightclub was unto something

Forget Fight Club. Have you guys seen Predestination?

No the name doesn't tell me anything

You claim something huge , life changing for many, on national tv.

You later have the CDC issue a correction with 1/50-1/100 of the population that previously got badly misinformed reached by the clarification.

The person who , on purpose, lied to the masses *in her capacity of leader of the national institution in charge of communicating science to americans* isn't punished in any way.

No the system is not working at all if that person can ever again work with the public, if she still has any career at all in the healthcare sector.

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She did issue a violently unconstitutional order, she issued the order to remove property rights for 90% of american counties, she illegally prolonged the moratorium on evictions. A power the CDC never had.

Attempting to illegally remove property rights from the masses is extremely violent.

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She now works for the Carter foundation jfc, she paid no price both for her massive disinformation campaign, and for her complete disregard of basic constitutional principles.

So no every time extremely bad faith actors at the top of the hierarchy can act like that without personal extreme repercussions *the system isn't working at all*

Serious question, why do you vote for Kamala? Wondering if it's more a fear of Trump thing or you really feel like she is the best leader for the country.

is it that hard not wanting to vote for a sexual abuser, fraudster, unethical, no decency, just bringing anger and hates toward others thinking differently ?

i mean the list is so long we could write almost a book about it ?

im pretty sure there is like x3 more reasons not to vote trump then to vote for him....

Spoilers ahead: A child is born with both sex organs. She's raised as a girl and doesn't learn about her condition until later in life. At this point, she transitions into a man. It's also a time travel movie. The male version travels back in time and has sex with the earlier female version of himself. They have a child who is taken from the hospital and brought back in time. That child grows up to be her/him. In short, she has sex with herself and then becomes pregnant with herself. Once she's born, her future self brings the baby back in time, and it grows up to be her/him. It's like there are four people who are all the same person. Total mind**** of a movie.

They care about abortion, climate change and the rest

I don't have a vote so it's a moot point, but I feel Harris almost certainly has the best interests of America as her priority (whether you agree with them is another matter), whereas Trump's #1 priority is Trump.

I think ZERO people here that voted for Harris would vote for a republican candidate who run on a platform with exactly the same policy proposals Trump has, even if he was immaculate wrt moral character and didn't sexually abuse anyone, nor got convicted of fraud and so on.

In fact people here assaulted Vance a lot

Not nearly enough. Every President before Trump would say they had the best interests of America as their priority and demonstrated this by campaigns of bombings and invasions. What the RoW need is a POTUS who doesn't gaf about America's overseas ambitions.

Isn’t scary ?
Having so many reasons not to vote for him despite not even caring about his policies that are just ideas of policies ?

There is like 5 reasons to vote for trump and a hundred not vote for him .

Unless your intention is to discuss the merits of the de facto two party system, your question is only whether people think she is the best leader for the country compared to Trump.

Trying to take Trump out of the equation makes no sense. Separating Trump from Trump's crimes, Trump's infamous lack of ethics, Trump's authoritarian tendencies, including being a poor judge of character or purposely selecting useless sycophants, and his refusal to admit democratic defeat, and Trump's generally bonkers behaviour makes no sense. Trying to approach this as if it's a matter of a wedding invite for that one uncle, whom we can forgive his weirdness, makes no sense. It is, exactly like you say, about choosing the best leader for the country.

Even if you could logically reduce him to his politics and those to his attempted or effected policies, wrongly implying that character and decorum do not matter, many will gladly take anything Kamala promises to do, and even anything Biden/Kamala have done, over what Trump has done, like Trump's extremely conservative Supreme Court appointees and the intended abortion ban shitshow.

Was it really a "serious question"?

So, I live in a very blue state which gives me the advantage of not having to think about it all that much. If I was in a swing state, I'd be faced with a difficult decision and would consider voting for Harris. Chances are I'd end up voting third party or leaving those boxes blank, but you never know. However, I would vote for Bush, McCain and Romney over Harris — but not Trump.

Have you considered that even if Trump's #1 priority is Trump, that is better for America than Harris' #1 priority being America?

The only thing trump could be great would him being the reason the U.S. elected the first female president .

Bush McCain and Romney didn't have Trump policy platform though.

I didn't write that 0 harris voters in this forum would ever vote a republican candidate.

I wrote they wouldn't vote a republican candidate with the same policy platform as Trump.

When you speak America do you speak the entire country or just the swing states ?
Just looking at abortion that is almost half the country .

it is possible that Trump in prioritising himself, the indirect effects actually benefits America more than Harris would.

However in all probability, Harris prioritising America will result in a greater net benefit for America.