50/50/400 4 ways with flopped quads

Check if you think they will bet, but it'd be sick to have it check through. Maybe bet $3000 again to look like a blocking bet with a pair (pocket or 8)?

Pot is like 16.5k I think and we have 25k behind. There are 3 other players in the hand and given V descriptions it's pretty near impossible somebody has QQ+ but there has to be a decent chance somebody has at least 8x or Jx.

I would bet whatever looks the most bluffy. I don't know for this game if thats 8k or 20k or check if you think V1 is still going to blast off here.

Uh uh, no way, not falling for this one. Straddling $400 and flopping quads is a BBV hand that I will not be sullying with my crude postflop analyses.

I'm happy for you though.

Alright FINE, in the off-chance this hand is real, nobody knows what any of your opponents have or how they got to the river this way--least of all your opponents themselves--but I think better things tend to happen when you casually check and let them keep clicking buttons. If by the grace of god the action reopens for you, you're probably gonna jam.

Wtver you do just looks like you have a 9

Just check and let them blast first, once you check/raise allin the jig is up, might as well turn your hand face up but at least you’ll get some value.

Champagne decision, albeit a tough choice, but I think I check and hopefully let them hangthemselves. If everyone checks to v3 and v3 bets again, do we check raise which would clearly look like the case 9 or do we call and hope that the other two come along. If it's a small bet, I might do that, becaiuse I just don't see how anyone calls a check raise, perhaps AJ if we're really really lucky

just wanna say goddamn these stakes lol - oh i check and if it checks through tell them how well they played it to keep them happy.

Bet $3,000 to induce a raise.

This hand is legendary. If my kid's middle-school friends were the Vs, and we lowered the stakes five orders of magnitude, the hand plays the same. Congratulations on flopping quads in high stakes poker with people who never grew up! If you made up the hand, congratulations on bluffing me too!

Personally im jamming my stack in, getting called 6 ways, and then getting in my ferrari and driving to the moon where the moon men will make me their chief.

I am now convinced pugdolk is a james bond villain but before hes run into james bond at the poker table. So when a dapper well spoken british man shows up and you hit quads, youre almost certainly going to get your jam called by a royal, and that man is a spy who is going to bring down your entire illegal emerald mining operation. Do not. I repeat: DO NOT add on in the middle of the hand with some loose emeralds and the keys to your coveted ferrari before pushing all in.

I’m aware that the hands I post are different from the usual threads, which are mostly low stakes spots that are right on the pip between call/fold/raise or cooler spots but I think this is an interesting hand, which is evidenced by the replies so far being a mix of check, bet small and jam. I don’t think this is a spot where the EV of all the options is roughly equivalent though so I’m interested in hearing what makes people lean towards one option over the other.

there shouldn't be any overpairs here and a villain would have to be really supersupersuper bad to call with an underpair so we're targetting an 8 or a J.

A J should bet if checked to and will call whereas an 8 might crying call but won't bet. Tiny chance a J would raise over a small bet and a larger chance that a super unlikely QQ, KK or AA will raise but they will of course call. Maybe, just maybe one of the new villains might spazz bluff shove?

My POV is to stab small to get crying calls from an 8, calls from a J and then pray that we get raised. I'm leading $4k and hoping we can get two calls at least

also, send me a PM with where you play please and I'll fly over from Australia

See, I read that, and I started to sweat collusion, etc... (Miss reading Ceegee here. Well, in the various Stud subfora.)

But our Le Chiffre knows the guy so...

The entire hand seems very dependent upon your group's individual dynamic, Pug. And not any strategy rule of thumb we could possibly contribute to.

If these are real hands that actually are happening to you, im sorry for not taking them seriously, but that first thread especially just didnt feel like an advice thread so you really got off on the wrong foot, where I cane to the conclusion that youre either posting bbv or lying poorly. none of the hands posted since then including this one have really inspired a ton of confidence that these are real.

I agree that (fake or not), this particular hand is more interesting than those in your first thread, and ill throw a bone and answer to counteract my non serious answer somewhat. I think the most standard move wouldve been bet turn. But its just a question of how much V3 hates money. with 3 callers OTF, theres just no reasonable reason for him to to bluff or semibluff turn IP, because theres just no chance you have the FE to bet it. Youd also think youd be happy to check turn for pot control even with a hand like AA pretty often since its not like the river is even relevant. I dont think V1 or V2 are competent enough to realize that and take the betting lead away, so basically its checking to V3 100% of the time and V3 shouldnt bet but is just blasting off cuz he hates money. So whats really changed on the river? His FE is still basically zero so absolutely everything points to river checking thru, but hes already shown that he just likes to give money away, and if you start betting now i got a feeling even these guys will know why.

Im checking and if it checks theu thats fine cuz ive gotten paid off plenty

well you have to test the board and see how people think. every other hand on this board is i got dealt the second nuts what do, reveal: villain had the nuts or I laid down a hand high up in my range after villain took a weird line reveal: he was bluffing so 3 hands in a row where hero call was the correct play is a good way to test the board.

You can assign little to no weight to my opinion, but I would jam. Chances of someone having a boat are reasonable and the chances of someone being curious are even better.

Based on description check jam. Or depending on btn size, possibly check and tank call to rope in another v. Like if btn just jams.

Just to be clear, this is the thread where you said 3 bets were rare and then 2 of the 3 hands you got 3 bet with 62o and Q7o. You werent testing the board, you were baiting them into being wrong so you could posterize them.

You called down 200 BBs with 2pnk in one of the "hero call was the correct play" hands. So the other issue with taking any of these threads seriously is that even if these hands are real, they are such ridiculous free money that the only real advice you need to be given is to keep your ass sitting in your seat.

3bets were rare in that game but the villain was also like 5 or more gin and tonics deep.

If your games are real you should be able to hire people to give great advice, or a bartender to get drinks quicker for the people you are playing against (obviously the nut investment).

Saying that I think it's all on the read for V3.

You say he blasts when checked to almost always ... will this include this river when everyone called him on flop and turn? If that's still pretty likely: "lol, check"

You also say V3 is a payoff wizard, and the other two V's just overcalled and over-overcalled the flop and turn. So I think it's fair to say that if you just open shove you are 100% getting paid by a J and pretty likely being paid by an 8, maybe by any pair from V2 or V3. Esp. given V2 and V3 have like 2/3 pot and a bit less than pot left. The only downside is that some stupidly large amount of V3's range is bluffs.

x/r V3 puts the most pressure on V1 (who is the deepest), and can be esp. bad if V3 bets like 8k on the river and your raise looks super strong because he's only folding bluffs.

tl;dr If V3 blasts big on the river, x/c (and probably pretend to think about it) ... if not then bet at least pot, probably just shove.

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