SE Hoya Containment Thread (aka Politics)
Welcome to the Official SE Politics Thread. The aim here is for high quality political discussion and debate. The concomitant aim here is for that high quality discussion and debate to NOT devolve into MAD posting, BAD posting, trolling, name-calling our community fracture.
We embark on this project hoping to encourage fair and thorough exchanges of views, and also fair and thorough advocacy for positions. We should learn a lot.
Rules
1. Posters are required to have 50 posts in SE over the last 365 days. This thread is not a proxy for the Politics forum, or an arena for goal-based issue advocacy from people we don't even know.
2. Pure devil's advocacy will not be tolerated unless it is identified by that poster as the aim of the particular post. There will be no run of the mill nitpickery for the sake of nitpickery.
3. This will be enforced loosely, but you are obligated to outline your basic position on whatever issue you're debating. We will not have loaded, gotcha-style internet-standard race to the bottom terrible posting in this thread. That does not mean you have to state every closely-held belief in every debate. You just can't hide the ball. "I'm not sure what my position is" is a completely valid position to hold.
4. Insults are out. You will not resort to that in this thread, because that will ruin this thread.
5. If you demonstrate an ongoing commitment to lowering the quality of discourse through incessant trolling or simply being really terrible, you'll be removed from this thread.
6. These are subject to significant revision as this thread develops.
There is a tradition in SE of better, fuller, funnier discussion of a really wide range of topics. Let's continue that here.
Lol all the money randomly panic going on trump now
Shrug
Kamala is even on track to lose the popular vote right now. This is an embarassing result. Like most reasonable people predicted, campaigning on right wing politics with Liz Cheney is a losing strategy
pretty wild if the dems manage to lose to a guy who basically came out and said yes i am american hitler, and i want to be king. at least the phrase "this isn't who we are" can officially be retired forever
Dems lose to the most hated man ever. twice
This is a sight to behold
it would be nice if we lived in a democracy, where the two political parties didn't collude to keep everyone out who wants healthcare, livable environment, just wealth distribution, peace, etc...
We should take this moment to heal, and in order to heal we should learn. What have learned? Trump beats women, amirite my friends?
IMG/Pimphand.pic/IMG
How ****ing stupid is the democratic party. Why the **** was Biden running? Throw any Newsom in there and he wins in a landslide. **** Biden for holding on when he doesn't even know where he is.
I thought Trump was sht his first term. Worst was going after all US allies for no reason, upsetting a 70 year world order of things for.. well, nothing really. But it might get worse.
30+ trillion in debt, 1 trillion in interest. Fed doesnt even know what to do, cutting rates when market at highs cause we cant afford that interest. Fed cuts and 10yr 30yr do Not go down, they go UP. Oh boy.. Cant kick the can down the road, its here. Trump lit the US dollar on fire over a cold. Trillions for nothing. He wont balance a budget, he will tell Fed to lower to zero and print moaaar. Its almost as if...... if this guy had a business it would go bankrupt.. Stoopid is not good right now.
This might be real bad, it might just be a total disaster. What to do, I think we gotta get those silver coins. To that end Gimmie Bengals moneline +215
Well buckle up everyone. Hope you got everything you wanted out of this
Time for USA to go gloves off on Ukraine.
No restrictions anymore.
Pundits asking about why latinos shifted so hard.
Spoiler
Latinos can be racist and sexist too.
Cool these people are actually getting president Vance and the puppeteers in a couple years.
Willing to bet Trump won’t even make it 4 years. He’s old as **** and eats like **** and is probably not in the best of health. We’ll probably have president Vance within a year. Watch
The "end of history" neolibs were right but with the like, wrong tone
never under estimate the racism of the american people. a black women never stood a chance.
outside of that, it is really scumbag uneducated poors like victor who are to blame.
lol at blaming the voters when you run a completely corrupt cop who tells people "I'm talking" when they protest GENOCIDE
btw, she never won a primary, and got completely obliterated in the one primary she did run in
lol @ blaming voters who voted. got it.
like i said....it's the uneducated poors who are also to blame (see above)
michelle obama would have done no better.
no I dont think Obama would have won either considering how wedded the Dems are to mid 2000s Republican policies.
I think there is a real chance for everyone to come together, Im just here to help. Let debate political things... I'll start
Your thoughts, feelings?
Numbers haven't shored up but it looks like from 2020, Trump will lose about 2-3M and Harris will lose between 10-15M votes from Biden.
Yeah, Hispanic and black men voting more heavily for Trump is something, but he still didn't add much support if any. Harris was just wildly, incredibly unpopular. Dems just stayed home.
never under estimate the racism of the american people. a black women never stood a chance.
outside of that, it is really scumbag uneducated poors like victor who are to blame.
lol @ blaming voters who voted. got it.
like i said....it's the uneducated poors who are also to blame (see above)
michelle obama would have done no better.
trump lost votes since last election. less people voted for trump. this was a lay up election for dems to beat trump.
it wasn't racism that kept people from voting for Kamala, it was genocide and corruption.
ilhan Omar and Rashida tlaib won their elections no problem. meanwhile other Dems are losing and/or fighting for their lives.
