2024 NFL Game Thread - Week 10

2024 NFL Game Thread - Week 10

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Cincinnati Bengals @ Baltimore Ravens (-6)

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New York Riesen (-6.5) @ Caroli

07 November 2024 at 09:38 PM
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by g-bebe k

Lamar would have converted that 2 pter

meh

gg g-bebe

your secondary is trash (as you know)

really going to limit this team in the playoffs


It is one possible outcome

Thankfully we won't see Chase again this year


Ravens completely dominated both lines of scrimmage. It's wild that this game was even close.


the above really illustrates the greatness of JOE

to even be in the game is something

remarkable QB last night and this season


by g-bebe k

It is one possible outcome

Thankfully we won't see Chase again this year

the top two QBs in the NFL were showcased last night

when you have one of those dudes anything is possible. i'll grant you that

i believe BAL's D was 30th in EPA/pass entering Week 10. after last night, prob will fall to 31st or last. it's such a glaring weakness that a ready-made solution prob isn't coming anytime soon. going to be really difficult to fade such a lack of efficiency in a key aspect of the modern NFL. we'll see how it plays out

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Chase becomes the first player in NFL history to have two games with at least 250 receiving yds and 2 receiving TDs

record book being remade by a special player


by ligastar k

Chase becomes the first player in NFL history to have two games with at least 250 receiving yds and 2 receiving TDs

record book being remade by a special player

And the team still won't pay him?


I can't believe people seriously think that going for 2 there was the best play. It's a little below 50% on a pass. It's actually about 60% on runs. So first mistake, you took the worst odds on winning with a pass vs the coin toss. Secondly, if you would have run it you'd have better odds then the coin toss. I thought these teams hired people to figure this stuff out.


by esad k

I can't believe people seriously think that going for 2 there was the best play. It's a little below 50% on a pass. It's actually about 60% on runs. So first mistake, you took the worst odds on winning with a pass vs the coin toss. Secondly, if you would have run it you'd have better odds then the coin toss. I thought these teams hired people to figure this stuff out.

So your issue isn't going for 2 , it's the play call. So why do you think people saying to go for 2 are wrong?


by newguyhere k

And the team still won't pay him?

huh?

he's getting his bag during the upcoming off-season (no different than JJ's timetable)

by esad k

I can't believe people seriously think that going for 2 there was the best play. It's a little below 50% on a pass. It's actually about 60% on runs. So first mistake, you took the worst odds on winning with a pass vs the coin toss. Secondly, if you would have run it you'd have better odds then the coin toss. I thought these teams hired people to figure this stuff out.

perhaps the play failed bc of the 3 fouls committed by the defense?


by ligastar k

huh?

he's getting his bag during the upcoming off-season (no different than JJ's timetable)

i hope so. he deserves it.


by newguyhere k

i hope so. he deserves it.

JOE and Chase are attached at the hip


by newguyhere k

i hope so. he deserves it.

no he doesn't. the 15 million or whatever he's already getting is more than enough.

all these people are obscenely overpaid

and I'm not saying the billionaire owners should get it. I'm saying as a society we need to be better allocating our resources. the billionaires shouldn't have it either. working people need a bigger share for our society to function


by filthyvermin k

no he doesn't. the 15 million or whatever he's already getting is more than enough.

all these people are obscenely overpaid

and I'm not saying the billionaire owners should get it. I'm saying as a society we need to be better allocating our resources. the billionaires shouldn't have it either. working people need a bigger share for our society to function

Why not if the team can afford to pay him? Teams have to spend at least 89% of their cap over a 4-year period.

So if they have to spend it somewhere (it only goes to the players), then I don't see why it wouldn't go to Chase.


by esad k

I can't believe people seriously think that going for 2 there was the best play. It's a little below 50% on a pass. It's actually about 60% on runs. So first mistake, you took the worst odds on winning with a pass vs the coin toss. Secondly, if you would have run it you'd have better odds then the coin toss. I thought these teams hired people to figure this stuff out.

This is why 2 pt conversions in these situations should be reserved for teams with running capable QBs. Ravens were likely 99% convinced Burrow would throw it, so Ravens commit 3 clear fouls with the worst thing happening is a replay from the 1. It is much more difficult to stop a run with a foul.


by PokerHero77 k

This is why 2 pt conversions in these situations should be reserved for teams with running capable QBs. Ravens were likely 99% convinced Burrow would throw it, so Ravens commit 3 clear fouls with the worst thing happening is a replay from the 1. It is much more difficult to stop a run with a foul.

maybe have 2 pt specialist QB. could even be a RB or WR who can throw


by ligastar k

the above really illustrates the greatness of JOE

to even be in the game is something

remarkable QB last night and this season

Except CIN basically had control of the game even with the Brown fumble. 3rd and 2 from the BAL 34 9:30 remaining up 21-20. They are about 80% to get the first down there with the proper play calls. Except Zack calls 2 bombs and gives the ball up.

Get the first down, then gain at worst 5 yards and they kick 45 yd FG with 7:30. Up 24-20 there is huge. And this is basically the worst case. If CIN drives for TD the go up 28-20 with no more than 6 minutes remaining. BAL needs the TD and 2 pt just to tie. And that leaves CIN with 2 min to drive for FG, which is about 70% based on how the game was flowing.

If CIN goes up 24-20, then BAL will not kick a FG unless it is 4th down and long. If BAL gets TD CIN gets the ball down 3 w/ 2 min worst case, or up 4 and running out the clock. Not a bad situation to be in IMO.

How Zack cannot even figure out that the team ahead should be running down the clock and retaining possession at all costs is inexcusable.


by filthyvermin k

maybe have 2 pt specialist QB. could even be a RB or WR who can throw

Makes sense to me. IIRC teams were running wildcat on 2 pt tries a few years ago. I don't see it much anymore tho.


yeah Zac (not Zack) is an issue i've (we've) discussed the past couple of seasons

he made some nice strides last night imo w going for all those 4th downs

you make some good pts and JOE wasn't perfect last night as a couple of drives fizzled when plays might have made. but when you're knocked down 13 times during the course of a game it's difficult to always read the field and deliver the correct throw

CIN's lines sux bigly. and i mean bigly. CIN isn't a good team


They should have won both BAL games. Get rid of Zac(k).


by ligastar k

yeah Zac (not Zack) is an issue i've (we've) discussed the past couple of seasons

he made some nice strides last night imo w going for all those 4th downs

you make some good pts and JOE wasn't perfect last night as a couple of drives fizzled when plays might have made. but when you're knocked down 13 times during the course of a game it's difficult to always read the field and deliver the correct throw

CIN's lines sux bigly. and i mean bigly. CIN isn't a good team

Curious about your opinion of why he did this. (ftr, I don't have strong feelings about Zac either way.) I'm interested to see which direction he goes from here.

Do you think he has seen the light or was that simply a moment of desperation a la Rivera when he morphed into Riverboat Ron and became an SE darling?

It worked out well for Ron because his "roll of the dice" succeeded. Zac's did not. Do you think he will continue with the appropriate aggression this season?


by ligastar k

the above really illustrates the greatness of JOE

to even be in the game is something

remarkable QB last night and this season

imagine joebro be chased behind the lions oline


by Tom Ames k

Curious about your opinion of why he did this. (ftr, I don't have strong feelings about Zac either way.) I'm interested to see which direction he goes from here.

Do you think he has seen the light or was that simply a moment of desperation a la Rivera when he morphed into Riverboat Ron and became an SE darling?

It worked out well for Ron because his "roll of the dice" succeeded. Zac's did not. Do you think he will continue with the appropriate aggression this season?

i think Zac and the staff were well aware they were facing a generational offense last night and that FGs weren't going to get the job done. also, Money Mac is 0 for 3 for his last three 50+ yd FGs. a bit of confidence is lacking in the newly extended CIN placekicker

aggression was the name of the game for CIN last night

by REDeYeS00 k

imagine joebro be chased behind the lions oline



by ligastar k

aggression was the name of the game for CIN last night

Thanks.

Not trying to gotcha or anything, but you think this was solely for the situation of the game and their opponent last night?

(And not trying to lead you, but that was the impression I had. I'm really just trying to find a baseline against which to judge Zac's future decisions for the rest of the year. And beyond???)


by Tom Ames k

Thanks.

Not trying to gotcha or anything, but you think this was solely for the situation of the game and their opponent last night?

(And not trying to lead you, but that was the impression I had. I'm really just trying to find a baseline against which to judge Zac's future decisions for the rest of the year. And beyond???)

it could be a one off. history says its likely to be

for example, two weeks ago w CIN up 7-3 vs PHI, facing 4th and 3 at the PHI 9, w 9:32 left in the half, Zac kicked a FG. that wasn't happening last night

whenever you see those graphs that show when NFL coaches are aggressive when they should be (obv 4th down bot GOs, etc.), CIN is always in the bottom quartile


NFL games are straight up rigged 1/3 of the time, and that's probably an under-estimation.

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