Poker to assist addiction
Hi all
Sorry if in wrong place - Mods please move to suitable part. Hopefully interesting discussion anyway to all.
I run
It can be, i could give up smoking and get addicted back to running
Calling it an "addiction" generally requires substantial negative impact on quality of life. To say one is addicted to running is hyperbole, it's not trading addictions. Addicted to heroin? That's easy, just trade it and do M&Ms instead.
Calling it an "addiction" generally requires substantial negative impact on quality of life. To say one is addicted to running is hyperbole, it's not trading addictions. Addicted to heroin? That's easy, just trade it and do M&Ms instead.
Running is actually an 'addiction' I myself have experience with. Distance running that falls within normal parameters shouldn't qualify as an addiction, agreed. But there was a time in the winter of 2015-2016 when I was running twice a night every night in an effort to stave off severe seasonal depression. The endorphins (or possibly anandimide, to cite a nearly unknown neurotransmitter that has been posited by a couple iconoclastic scientists to be responsible for the 'runner's high') were sought by me to the point where I could barely walk during the daytime...only to repeat the cycle every night
Context matters, and I'd contend that an alternate definition of addiction is 'something you can't quit without suffering adverse effects'
What you may be missing is what some addictions can do for you. It is not all harm, no benefits. If it were, it would be easier to quit. I would consider it low EQ to make assumptions about others without sufficient information or experience or compassion and then judge their EQ as low. (irony bombs incoming)
Yeah very good point
Yes but people will gamble on anything. People gamble on who will be the first person to drop out of their Gamblers Anonymous group.
Those games I listed aren’t INHERENT gambling games, though. Poker is.
Actually so is backgammon. Yes you can play backgammon w/o betting but same is true for poker.
It's a great idea imo. It's not an addiction to 0rofessional players It's a way to make money. To beat addiction you need to feel free playing poker lifestyle will help this. Making own hours eating out being around excitement. The people saying this isn't a good idea are ignorant and don't really understand addicts. This is what addicts need to have fun and feel happy. It's just good sense the people saying no are trying to be perfect because they don't understand real people or excitement and f4ankly are just mad people blinded by they're own selves because they know inside that they are ignorant and think that it's nor COMPLETELY OBVIOUS to others. Or maybe they don't know and that's why they sound so ignorant.
What you may be missing is what some addictions can do for you. It is not all harm, no benefits. If it were, it would be easier to quit. I would consider it low EQ to make assumptions about others without sufficient information or experience or compassion and then judge their EQ as low. (irony bombs incoming)
I'm a professional poker playing alcoholic addict who has had crippling gambling addiction. Whos making assumptions now
I stand by this being completely misguided
I'm a professional poker playing alcoholic addict who has had crippling gambling addiction. Whos making assumptions now
I stand by this being completely misguided
I have an uncle who had an alcohol and smoking addiction. He started playing poker and you guessed it, addicted the hat-trick as he drinks and smokes when playing poker. I am just glad I don't live with him as it must be incredibly hard for the rest of his family.
The people saying this isn't a good idea are ignorant and don't really understand addicts. This is what addicts need to have fun and feel happy. It's just good sense the people saying no are trying to be perfect because they don't understand real people or excitement and f4ankly are just mad people blinded by they're own selves because they know inside that they are ignorant a
How ignorant of us to say addicts abuse their freedom.
You'd rather enable a history of bad decisions through another lens, right?
"As long as you're a happy free butterfly everything is ok."
I can almost guarantee you're a mark at the poker table and in life.
I'm a professional poker playing alcoholic addict who has had crippling gambling addiction. Whos making assumptions now
I stand by this being completely misguided
Funny, because I'm a professional poker player who's never had a problem with addiction either to gambling or alcohol but have had problems with addiction to weed and running before. I wonder if it's possible for two people to have very different experiences on addiction and therefore a take on its nature?
In terms of 'who's making assumptions', that's a valid question, because it wasn't me
It's a great idea imo. It's not an addiction to 0rofessional players It's a way to make money. To beat addiction you need to feel free playing poker lifestyle will help this. Making own hours eating out being around excitement. The people saying this isn't a good idea are ignorant and don't really understand addicts. This is what addicts need to have fun and feel happy. It's ju
This guy's got me figured out. Can we close the thread before everyone else sees this?
I think addiction theory is still very unchartered at this point, so taking a strong stance either way usually emotive > reality.
It's all insanely subjective. I'm an everything addict. Everything but gambling which makes me feel bad. So in my case online poker has often been a go-to panacea to distract myself in a way that still feels fun and exciting. So merit behind this idea ime and I can see it working for some for sure. But also very subjective and context dependent.
Something I've learnt from a lifetime of addiction and talking to other addicts: some people can only cure addictions via cold turkey, but for others the only cure that ever works is a gradual reworking of the dose. This seems to apply to most addictions. Finding out where you are on that scale is a vital aspect of 'recovery'.
It's about feeling powerful. Addicts don't feel powerful in real life so playing poker is a power thing. It's simple. ******s make it complex cuz they are phags.
Why not Chess?
Poker is hard at times for healthy non addicts.
If I had a friend addicted to gambling or substances I would never recommend him to start playing any form of poker: live or online.
I've been sober for 14 years. I play poker for a living. I don't think it is a good idea to make this a part of a business that is there to help people struggling with addiction. Friendly poker games / tournaments among friends in the recovery community seem fine, but even then I think there is some risk for people with cross addictions. And there can be risks that people getting over end up gambling the little money that they have depending on the stakes.
