Trump 2nd term prediction thread
So, looks like Trump not only smashed the electoral college, but is looking on track to win the popular vote, which seems to be an unexpected turn of events, but a clear sign of the current temperature in the country and perhaps the wider world.
Would be interested to hear views on how his 2nd term will pan out from both sides of the aisle - major happenings, what he's going to get done, what he's not going to get done, the impact of his election on the current conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza, whether his popularity will remain the same, wane, or increase, etc.
A bit of an anemic OP, I know, just interested to hear people's thoughts now that the election uncertainty is over.
There is also the "the house slim majority is now much more manageable" reason as well which is kinda important.
Gaetz is already out of Congress, he left after the name came out. Trump can change his mind before senate confirms, or ask the Senate in private not to confirm, and Gaetz is gone for good.
Or, he becomes AG for a while then gets kicked out and the same outcome is accomplished
Did not expect any positive outcomes from Trump presidency, let alone so soon. Assuming this happens, of course. Couldn't have happened to a more deserving fella, btw. Gym Jordan next?
Ditto this. I thought I was going to have to hang my hat on the minor victory of Thune being senate majority leader, but Gaetz being out is a feel-good story for the ages.
Ditto this. I thought I was going to have to hang my hat on the minor victory of Thune being senate majority leader, but Gaetz being out is a feel-good story for the ages.
Especially if Trump doesn't nominate him after Gaetz has been sucking him off for however many years and shot himself in the dick by resigning on a promise. Leopards unleashed, faces eating commenced.
Oh, there's news that the onion bought infowars today, too, which is AMAZING.
Rubio for Secretary of State was unremarkable. He is the sort of person any Republican president might nominate for a cabinet position. Gaetz and several others? Not so much.
Oh given what you guys said during the elections, every normal pick for a relevant role is actually a move against your dire predictions.
Listening to you guys it was supposed to be all gaetz level or worse
Oh given what you guys said during the elections, every normal pick for a relevant role is actually a move against your dire predictions.
Listening to you guys it was supposed to be all gaetz level or worse
What I said was:
I do not expect to see more adults in the room this time around. Sure, Trump has the benefit of having done this exercise one time before. But he also has a demonstrated pattern of burning and diminishing anyone who signs up to be an adult in the room. I'm sure there will be a couple of adults who are reckless enough to give it a whirl, but fewer than last time.
So far, I would say my prediction is spot on.
Oh given what you guys said during the elections, every normal pick for a relevant role is actually a move against your dire predictions.
Listening to you guys it was supposed to be all gaetz level or worse
No one said every politician supporting Trump is a dumb **** ass kisser, some of his supporters are qualified ass kissers. Rubio may be one of the latter.
I think you do see why and how coming from senate politics prepares you better for high level international politics, than being the CEO of Exxon does. Yes the CEO of Exxon spends significant time courting favors in other countries, but with a specific, measurable, and limited in scope reward he needs to achive.
Broad-based political achievement, and multifactorial thinking that encompass the destiny of various relationships between various countries or block of countries is different than trying to score favorable treatment for your extraction efforts somewhere by bribing (legally or illegally) the right people.
Also Tillerson was actually probably compromised with Putin, while Rubio certainly isn't.
I think you do see why and how coming from senate politics prepares you better for high level international politics, than being the CEO of Exxon does. Yes the CEO of Exxon spends significant time courting favors in other countries, but with a specific, measurable, and limited in scope reward he needs to achive.
Broad-based political achievement, and multifactorial thinking that encompass the destiny of various relationships between various countries or block of countries is different than trying
Let's assume everything you wrote above it correct. It doesn't follow that people who predicted a bigger clown show than last time are wrong. Gaetz is the single most ridiculous cabinet nomination that I can remember in my adult lifetime. Nominating a guy with literally no experience in housing as the secrety of HUD was ridiculous, but at least Ben Carson had demonstrated competency at something, unlike Gaetz. And the secretary of HUD has a lot less impact on the country than the head of the DOJ does.
Let's assume everything you wrote above it correct. It doesn't follow that people who predicted a bigger clown show than last time are wrong. Gaetz is the single most ridiculous cabinet nomination that I can remember in my adult lifetime. Nominating a guy with literally no experience in housing as the secrety of HUD was ridiculous, but at least Ben Carson had demonstrated competency at something, unlike Gaetz. And the secretary of HUD has a lot less impact on the country than the head of the
It's a completely indefensible pick. It demonstrates such utter incompetence as a leader, it should absolutely be disqualifying. I don't understand how anyone that voted for him doesn't instantly regret their vote when seeing such a thing, but there's a lot I don't understand about others' minds, I guess.
Let's assume everything you wrote above it correct. It doesn't follow that people who predicted a bigger clown show than last time are wrong. Gaetz is the single most ridiculous cabinet nomination that I can remember in my adult lifetime. Nominating a guy with literally no experience in housing as the secrety of HUD was ridiculous, but at least Ben Carson had demonstrated competency at something, unlike Gaetz. And the secretary of HUD has a lot less impact on the country than the head of the
Not yet, but every decent nomination makes it harder for disaster to happen.
But i mean, we also have a problem because i wouldn't call the first trump presidency a clown show. There was high rotation of people yes, but very little happened in policy terms. It was a quite prolonging of Obama 2 terms for most things in practice.
Which significant executive policy , event, would you call a clown show? i mean try to keep jan6 out of your mind for a moment (i know you blame the riot on Trump, but i don't so that makes it impossible to judge the significance of that).
The normal governing, what absurd, redic things happened that make that term stand out negatively? he nominated rightwing judges, he cut tax a bit, tried to be a little more strict with immigration. Played golf most of the time.
It's a completely indefensible pick. It demonstrates such utter incompetence as a leader, it should absolutely be disqualifying. I don't understand how anyone that voted for him doesn't instantly regret their vote when seeing such a thing, but there's a lot I don't understand about others' minds, I guess.
You realize a lot of people on the right would like for like half of the DOJ to go to jail and the other half to go on food stamps right?
Disrespecting the DoJ is happening *on purpose*. A lot of his core voters want actual heads to roll, not one or two, legions. They want to dismantle a lot of the federal government and rebuild (some don't want to rebuild, they just want it a lot smaller).
When they say they think the deepstate is the problem in the country along with illegals they mean it. And career officials in federal departments are the deep state.
It's a completely indefensible pick. It demonstrates such utter incompetence as a leader, it should absolutely be disqualifying. I don't understand how anyone that voted for him doesn't instantly regret their vote when seeing such a thing, but there's a lot I don't understand about others' minds, I guess.
Why?
They voted for Trump in part because he promised to take a wrecking ball to the deep state. The Gaetz pick as AG is entirely consistent with that promise.
That you don't understand other people's minds is the least surprising thing you have admitted since outing yourself as a cat lover.
Joe stickin' it to the libs
The fact that there are a bunch of grown men and women out there voting to "dismantle the deep state" is really quite a sad state of affairs. The MAGA cult is basically a zombified army of Playbigs.
And yes Luciom, I know you have your own non-nutjob (well, not conspiracy nutjob, anyway) interpretation of what that means, but basically if you ask anyone who actually uses the term "deep state" what that means to them, you'll get some conspiraloon Playbig-style answer.
The deep state? They still parroting that dumb s?
The fact that there are a bunch of grown men and women out there voting to "dismantle the deep state" is really quite a sad state of affairs. The MAGA cult is basically a zombified army of Playbigs.
Do you even know what MAGA stands for? It means Make America Great Again. You oppose that? And why wouldn't you wanna dismantle an empire who's goal is to take over every country and turn the planet into a one world "new world order" communist gov't under their strict control?
The "MAGA cult" is much more awake and aware than anyone voting for or supporting Joe biden or camela harris who in plain sight are trying to dismantle the U.S., not make it great.
Do you even know what MAGA stands for? It means Make America Great Again. You oppose that? And why wouldn't you wanna dismantle an empire who's goal is to take over every country and turn the planet into a one world "new world order" communist gov't under their strict control?
The "MAGA cult" is much more awake and aware than anyone voting for or supporting Joe biden or camela harris who in plain sight are trying to dismantle the U.S., not make it great.
big if true
Yes, it's 1,000% true. I used to work for them (not by choice).
