Trump 2nd term prediction thread

Trump 2nd term prediction thread

So, looks like Trump not only smashed the electoral college, but is looking on track to win the popular vote, which seems to be an unexpected turn of events, but a clear sign of the current temperature in the country and perhaps the wider world.

Would be interested to hear views on how his 2nd term will pan out from both sides of the aisle - major happenings, what he's going to get done, what he's not going to get done, the impact of his election on the current conflicts in Ukraine and Gaza, whether his popularity will remain the same, wane, or increase, etc.

A bit of an anemic OP, I know, just interested to hear people's thoughts now that the election uncertainty is over.

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by Luciom k

not white nationalist either lol. a templar pilled would see Egyptian Copts are millenarian allies (they are brown for reference).

And fascist requires a different domestic worldview as well (starting with not loving democracy very much).

yes the radical left calling Israel Nazi should make you try to use the word appropriately, not the same way they use them, to mean "everyone I dislike".

you don't have a model of the world to describe someone who is pro democracy, not racially oriented, but want

There is a lot of overlap between templars, white nationalists, and Neonazis.


by Luciom k

or they knew they were screwed regardless (wrt Israel-gaza) with both parties going allin pro Israel anyway, and they voted to pay less taxes and deregulate their small businesses (and send illegals who actually compete with the uneducated portion of American Muslims for jobs away), and they want to get heard anyway in the off chance they get some extra stuff sent their way

And you think the uneducated, Trump-voting dopes who allowed right wing media to kill a bunch of them off during COVID with their ******ed anti-vaxx stance can do that math? How cute.


by Luciom k

that's not what Nazism is and I don't see why you can't use genocidal instead of nazist.

and templar pilled people don't want to genocide all Muslims just the jihadist (=warriors, fighting) ones.

why warp the meaning of a word completely behind recognition like that? especially when under your definition victor can claim some Israeli are Nazi-adjacent? a Jew definitionally can't be Nazi or Nazi adjacent if you use the words in a proper way

you mean like some do with the word marxist ?


by d2_e4 k

Just a nothingburger Neo Nazi tattoo, no idea why everyone is getting their panties in a bunch. Luciom will be along at some point to explain to us why this is actually a good thing.

This is what America now is; a country of angry, uneducated *******s who have had a silver spoon jammed up their ass for so long that they have forgotten how good they have it relative to the rest of humanity, and as such elected a severely damaged and dangerous douche to make themselves feel better about the fact that their brown neighbor is doing better than their talentless, entitled, stupid selves. Trump voters WANT this. All of it.


by Montrealcorp k

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Good post .

Too bad Trumptards could never read all that, much less digest and understand it. These are the same people who until only recently thought the sun revolved around the earth.


by MrDavitWilliam k

Too bad Trumptards could never read all that, much less digest and understand it. These are the same people who until only recently thought the sun revolved around the earth.

Dunno what trumptards are but the list is a long list of lefist talking point each and every one of which can be debunked and/or when true, clearly be linked to something that has nothing to do with neoliberalism.

Just one example and i won't go through all of them because it's just a waste of time, unions decreasing membership. True, but that happened everywhere including in countries where neoliberalism isn't even vaguely on the map and never was a single day (Italy, Spain, France), and it is blatantly and obviously and uncontroversially linked to the decreased magnitude of workforce in manufacturing. Very simply unions are a factory phenomenon first and foremost. They never happened strongly in services outside of a few niches where small amount of service workers all worked in the same place and acted as a bottleneck to entire industries.

Unions decreased in relevance because manufacturing decreased in relevance. In happened everywhere in the first world, it has nothing to do with "neoliberalism", and there is absolutely nothing you can do to change that (Germany and others tried, didn't work anywhere).

Not that unions were as good as depicted, they were the main cause of inflation and their demise is why the world had the longest low-flation era since forever (and inflation only came back because of unprecedented in world history mistakes while dealing with a pandemic, not because of economic causes).

Btw it's like that for all the other talking points: either false (like the debunked "salaries don't grow with productivity" thing which uses 2 different deflators and doesn't account for health benefits) or yes that happened but it wasn't neoliberalism.


by Luciom k

Dunno what trumptards are

You kinda do though, really, don't you?


AG pick Matt Gaetz has suggested El Salvador’s brutal law enforcement is a good model

Republican Party’s infatuation with Salvadoran President
Nayib Bukele, the self-described “world’s coolest dictator”

Gaetz was among Bukele’s loudest cheerleaders in Congress.
In June, he attended the authoritarian leader’s second term inauguration
alongside a bunch of other conservatives, including Donald Trump Jr.

“We think the good ideas in El Salvador actually have legs and can go to other
places and help other people be safe and secure and hopeful and prosperous.”


by steamraise k

AG pick Matt Gaetz has suggested El Salvador’s brutal law enforcement is a good model

Republican Party’s infatuation with Salvadoran President
Nayib Bukele, the self-described “world’s coolest dictator”

Gaetz was among Bukele’s loudest cheerleaders in Congress.
In June, he attended the authoritarian leader’s second term inauguration
alongside a bunch of other conservatives, including Donald Trump Jr.

“We think the good ideas in El Salvador actually ha

Lol conservatives. Wrap themselves in the constitution when it's convenient, pour gas on it and set it on fire when not. Stone hypocrites, always and forever.

Luciom, will you be explaining why locking people up indefinitely with no charges, no trial, and no access to counsel is also a good thing and not authoritarian at all?


by d2_e4 k

Lol conservatives. Wrap themselves in the constitution when it's convenient, pour gas on it and set it on fire when not. Stone hypocrites, always and forever.

Luciom, will you be explaining why locking people up indefinitely with no charges, no trial, and no access to counsel is also a good thing and not authoritarian at all?

Constitution has to be respected, which doesn't mean you can't take the very good bukele model and do everything he does which is constitutional in the USA.

Btw democrats and republicans did worse in Guantanamo than bukele ever did, and I reject your claim that bukele did what you wrote ( hint: never believe a leftist source about anything unless it's corroborated by non leftist sources)


Trump’s school prayer charade isn’t about the freedom for students
to pray — or not pray — as their conscience dictates, but about using
the power of the government to compel students to pray in a particular way.

There’s nothing at the moment that prohibits students
at schools from praying, individually or collectively.
And, yet, one commonly hears the complaint from conservative
Christians of how awful it is that prayer was taken out of schools.

Obeying the government’s chosen prayer does not unite us.
We’re united as Americans by the freedom to pray, worship and believe however we choose.


by Luciom k

Constitution has to be respected, which doesn't mean you can't take the very good bukele model and do everything he does which is constitutional in the USA.

Btw democrats and republicans did worse in Guantanamo than bukele ever did, and I reject your claim that bukele did what you wrote ( hint: never believe a leftist source about anything unless it's corroborated by non leftist sources)

I've seen multiple documentaries about exactly what he did. Which part is it you reject?


"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face...It's just a goddamned piece of paper!" - George Bush when forming the Patriot Act.


by d2_e4 k

I've seen multiple documentaries about exactly what he did. Which part is it you reject?

Unlimited detention with no trial, no charges? What documentary was that Michael Moore lol?


by Luciom k

it is for me, pretty well known in right-wing European circles my age, normal templar pilled stuff

Oh you do surprise me.


by jcorb k

"Stop throwing the Constitution in my face...It's just a goddamned piece of paper!" - George Bush when forming the Patriot Act.

And democrats when renewing it several times.

You know who said "enough" to that? Trump


by jalfrezi k

Oh you do surprise me.

People in martial arts 35-40 years old are into those kind of stuff pretty common. A


by d2_e4 k

I'm a jew you idiot. Of course I fully support Israel.


by Luciom k

Unlimited detention with no trial, no charges? What documentary was that Michael Moore lol?

Pretty sure that's exactly what's happening, correct. Anyone suspected of being in a gang goes to his fancy new prison and stays there until and unless they feel like letting them back out. Maybe if they're lucky they might get a lawyer and a trial after a few years, but the majority haven't even seen a judge I don't think.


by jalfrezi k

They probably believe in all that crazy god stuff too.


by d2_e4 k

They probably believe in all that crazy god stuff too.



by jalfrezi k

If your point is that the set of jews who don't support of Israel is nonempty, I am aware.


by Luciom k

Dunno what trumptards are.

Anyone who thinks Trump, a deranged, damaged and dangerous man the likes of which the US has never before seen ascend to national office and who the founders specifically warned against, should be in charge of anything or have any power at all. Now you understand. Basically, the average American, who is clearly a depraved imbecile.


A very long way indeed from empty, as you may have noticed in demos here.

It would be a mistake to assume that because someone's Jewish they support Israel's behaviour.


by wet work k

I mean who else are all the rightwing fatties going to blame? lol

BigFatStupidRushLimbaugh is already dead.

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