Triple barrel with trips on a flush board
Winning Poker, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players
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UTG: $2.67 (134 bb)
MP: $2.96 (148 bb)
CO: $2.39 (120 bb)
BU: $1.60 (80 bb)
SB (Hero): $4.53 (227 bb)
BB: $1.75 (88 bb)
Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is SB with J♠ K♣
1 fold, MP calls $0.02, 2 players fold, Hero raises to $0.08, BB calls $0.06, MP calls $0.06
Flop: ($0.24) 6♣ 3♣ J♣ (3 players)
Hero bets $0.18, BB calls $0.18, MP folds
Turn: ($0.60) T♠ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.45, BB calls $0.45
River: ($1.50) J♥ (2 players)
Hero?
BB looks pretty tight over the small sample that i have (15/13/5 over ~80 hands). Havent seen him being aggresive postflop, nor show down any big hands. MP is a loose-passive fish (40/10/0).
Pre: i think villain has a somewhat normal calling range here, given that we both know that MP is a fish and will not raise. Maybe a bit tighter.
Flop: not super afraid of flushes, if BB raises i might get out, but the perfect situation is if BB folds and i get value from the fish (too bad, wrong villain folded).
Turn is whatever, doesnt change much.
River: not loving it too much, even though i ran into trips, i might be behind the villains range after he calls twice IP. He could easily have flushes as he doesnt need to raise IP and can just let me hang myself. I block a part of flush draws though. Not sure if he could have a worse J, it would have to be pretty much only QJ, and if he doesnt call without a club, its only one specific combo of QcJd. He could also have Acx and maybe 99 with a club? Do those pay me off? If i check, do they bluff? Im not sure if i should shove, check call or check fold. I also thought about block betting to get worse hands to pay me off, but im not sure they do (and if they do, wouldnt they allso call off a shove?). What do i do here?
15 Replies
Probably hit a b10 on the river and fold to a jam- jamming yourself is too thin and a block will outperform a x generally.
Also set your hh to BB next time it’s a lot easier to read 😀
If it's a passive opponent who won't bluff often, then you bet / fold.
Pre: Because I am in the SB (OOP for sure for the rest of the hand) and a fish limps with a vast trashy range, I would make 0.12$ iso.
Flop: Dogshit sizing, because it is monotone and the only straight draw out there is the horrible 54, only top would call and maybe the Nuts, you would get raised but by a **** ton of small flushes, sets, and the ace of clubs! You should mix it up against a GTO villain because, yes you have value but when you have top pair with a draw to the effective nuts, your hand doesn't need that much protection, and the value that you are trying to get is bad because villain's range is becoming significantly more dominant. Given that he is a tight player, you should be more inclined to check more because he already has hands that crush you and will fold those you crush, maybe the fish presence justifies your play a bit but I am not seeing a world where betting more than 1/2 pot here is good
Turn: If you hadn't bet the flop, it would have been a great spot to bet POT on the turn, assuming he checks because now his check signals a bad hand (especially at NL2), but since you bet I might consider checking with that hand because his range pounds you (15/13/5) is a too tight and the reasons above
River: 100% check, your hand is super marginal! You get desired by flushes, and you beat no hands in his range that is value except worse jacks, because I would check/call my trips 100% of the time but if this hand got played at NL200, I would have considered check/folding!
He is not passive!
BB is an aggressive NIT based on (15/13/3) not (15/5/1)
Probably hit a b10 on the river and fold to a jam- jamming yourself is too thin and a block will outperform a x generally.
Also set your hh to BB next time it’s a lot easier to read 😀
Is block sizing really much different here than checking? What is the range that calls a block bet, but doesnt check back, or shoves vs x, but not vs a block?
Oh and about HH in BBs - i have no idea why it copies it in $ and how to change it - i have "amounts in bb" checked and it shows in bbs to me. I guess i could have posted a picture from hand2note instead, it actually looks pretty.
Pre: Because I am in the SB (OOP for sure for the rest of the hand) and a fish limps with a vast trashy range, I would make 0.12$ iso.
Flop: Dogshit sizing, because it is monotone and the only straight draw out there is the horrible 54, only top would call and maybe the Nuts, you would get raised but by a **** ton of small flushes, sets, and the ace of clubs! You should mix it up against a GTO villain because, yes you have value but when you have top pair with a draw to the effective nuts, your h
Pre, i just added 1bb for a limper to my normal sizing. I agree about the sizing on the flop, and in a normal scenario im probably checking, but in this case i actually wanted the tight player out and the fish in. On the turn, i wanted to continue barreling, but on the other hand, if he calls and im not sure what to do on the river, yeah, probably should have checked. As played, are you saying we check call river? What do you think he bets with?
Call the river with a pin in my throat!
River baby block is pretty much always higher ev than x with a marginal value / catcher hand like this OOP.
Is block sizing really much different here than checking? What is the range that calls a block bet, but doesnt check back, or shoves vs x, but not vs a block?
Oh and about HH in BBs - i have no idea why it copies it in $ and how to change it - i have "amounts in bb" checked and it shows in bbs to me. I guess i could have posted a picture from hand2note instead, it actually looks pretty.
Pre, i just added 1bb for a limper to my normal sizing. I agree about the sizing on the flop, and in a normal sc
It’s hard to fully explain here in detail but basically they make more of an error in frequencies if you block once than if you x and potentially face a bet.
A lot of players (especially nits) call some worse hands that in theory would be mandatory bluffs which is part of where your edge comes from. The other part is they’ll just open fold some hands that they’d otherwise sometimes bluff jam.
It’s not really something I can write about but GTO Wizard did a really good video about block betting so I recommend you finding it and checking it out!
This is the one I was talking about:
Broken YouTube LinkI think betting so big on both flop and turn OOP on a mono board with 2 players left to act is a mistake, especially if BB is that much of a nit. I would just go for smaller bets on both flop and turn, and then block river. Remember that 3ways we need to be more careful, our value range goes higher and we shift towards smaller bets, especially on these boards which are very wet.
I rarely block bet which is a mistake, let me think about it!
Thanks all. I see a lot of ways i could have played this hand much better now.
Results:
Spoiler
I check, he snap jams, i fold.
I think betting so big on both flop and turn OOP on a mono board with 2 players left to act is a mistake, especially if BB is that much of a nit. I would just go for smaller bets on both flop and turn, and then block river. Remember that 3ways we need to be more careful, our value range goes higher and we shift towards smaller bets, especially on these boards which are very wet.
It’s down to preference when the other players multi-way aren’t good- personally v weak opposition I use similar sizes as recs tend to induce more if you use blocks more than once in a row.
