The "LOLCANADA" thread...again
So what's new?
I've noticed the Liberals are now ahead in all major polls and Trudeau hasn't even started to campaign yet...i'd be shocked if they lost the election now.
Just shows just how incompetent Conservatives are.
Was watching a few different media sources last night and the one point I thought could be important. Correct me if I am wrong but a president just can’t impose tariffs without congress unless he determines the country he is imposing the tariffs on is acting dangerously against the USA
My point being I think the tariffs on Canada are not about the border and fentanyl but actually about Canadas failure to meet the 2% NATO commitments
My point being I think the tariffs on Canada are not about the border and fentanyl but actually about Canadas failure to meet the 2% NATO commitments
That makes no sense. If that was true, why aren’t all the other countries that don’t meet NATOs target on the list? And why would Trump say it was about securing borders when it was about some entirely other issue? I get that NATO spending is your pet issue despite your leader refusing to pledge to meet it, but this is just illogical.
It would also be completely insane to threaten massive debilitating economic pain with huge tariffs on your closest neighbour and ally over it. Just as it is with the enigmatic “secure the border”.
Poilievre is a liar.
Did the carbon tax substantially impact food prices? If there is one graph to disprove that claim..
But Poilievre always talks on and on about the farmer who grows your food and the trucker who transports your food blah blah blah blah you know the speech. So if you want more than a chart, the great economist Trevor Tombe did a deep dive into all the direct AND INDIRECT elements of the carbon tax through the food chain. And it caused food prices to go up.....0.5%. Before rebates.
This probably doesn't matter. The carbon tax and any meaningful attempt to act on climate change on either side of the border is going to go away. But facts still matter and for the future it is important we get this right.
Poilievre is a liar.
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I never said I don't know what it means and I didn't chant it, I said it because it was in Trump's post....
Oh so you DO know what "secure the border" means? Can you....tell us? Or better yet tell Trudeau? Or tell Trump? Because nobody seems to have any clue what "secure the border" - the chant you thought was so simple - actually means. We have 8800km of border. Are we supposed to build a wall a trillion dollar wall or something?
Oh so you DO know what "secure the border" means? Can you....tell us? Or better yet tell Trudeau? Or tell Trump? Because nobody seems to have any clue what "secure the border" - the chant you thought was so simple - actually means. We have 8800km of border. Are we supposed to build a wall a trillion dollar wall or something?
You've really become unhinged, a break from politics is probably in your best interest.
That said it's pretty easy, Canada can do a better job of controlling who they let in the country, better screening at boarder crossings, arrest illegal immigrants, stop handing out visas like Candy. We've done this before, it's just in the past 4-8 years there has been a gigantic increase in illegal boarder crossings and known terror suspects being arrested at the border. If we can band together to stop climate change surely we can band together to secure 8000km of border.
Poilievre is a liar.
Did the carbon tax substantially impact food prices? If there is one graph to disprove that claim..
But Poilievre always talks on and on about the farmer who grows your food and the trucker who transports your food blah blah blah blah you know the speech. So if you want more than a chart, the great economist Trevor Tombe did a deep dive into all the direct AND INDIRECT elements of the carbon tax through the food chain. And it caused food prices to go up.....0.5%. Before rebat
Anyone with have a brain can understand if you have per say a potato and you need to keep them warm in the barn you need to heat that barn , as well you need to truck that potato to market and than the retailer has to sell it in a store that is heated . OK the farmer does not pay Carbon tax on the diesel for the tractor but he does pay a carbon tax on the propane to heat the barn or natural gas, The trucker pays a carbon tax on the fuel to ship the potatoes, The retailers pays a carbon tax to heat the store . Do you thin k they all eat that cost no they pass it on to the consumers
I am sure that economist is funded through Justin's green slush fund.
Anyone with have a brain can understand if you have per say a potato and you need to keep them warm in the barn you need to heat that barn , as well you need to truck that potato to market and than the retailer has to sell it in a store that is heated . OK the farmer does not pay Carbon tax on the diesel for the tractor but he does pay a carbon tax on the propane to heat the barn or natural gas, The trucker pays a carbon tax on the fuel to ship the potatoes, The retailers pays a carbon tax to he
Right. So the economists literally studied precisely what you are suggesting. They investigated the entire direct and indirect supply chain. Check out the paper. And all that put together gives......0.5%.
Are you worried about 0.5%?
Anyone with have a brain can understand if you have per say a potato and you need to keep them warm in the barn you need to heat that barn , as well you need to truck that potato to market and than the retailer has to sell it in a store that is heated . OK the farmer does not pay Carbon tax on the diesel for the tractor but he does pay a carbon tax on the propane to heat the barn or natural gas, The trucker pays a carbon tax on the fuel to ship the potatoes, The retailers pays a carbon tax to he
I will always take the pov of 300 experts over 1 experts on Twitter shrug
Sounds crazy I know .
You've really become unhinged, a break from politics is probably in your best interest.
That said it's pretty easy, Canada can do a better job of controlling who they let in the country, better screening at boarder crossings, arrest illegal immigrants, stop handing out visas like Candy. We've done this before, it's just in the past 4-8 years there has been a gigantic increase in illegal boarder crossings and known terror suspects being arrested at the border. If we can band together to stop clim
It’s great to hear you love being dictate how our country should run our borders by a foreign president .
And having the same bs threat when we aren’t the one causing the massive immigration problem the US have ……
Worst of , what the US try to blame us on , is what actually happens to us as well by them .
Not to mention we are the best allies to the US and being threaten like that form a reason is really dumb …..
Trump going to hurt both countries ….
Right. So the economists literally studied precisely what you are suggesting. They investigated the entire direct and indirect supply chain. Check out the paper. And all that put together gives......0.5%.
Are you worried about 0.5%?
Bunch of U of C profs that voted Trudeau . Next thing you know they will claim 90 % of the carbon tax is rebated back to folks
The carbon tax is going just like Justin what scares me is how much more damage he will do in his last 9 months of office and than once we get a new government how bad the mess is that he created in 9 years .
Bunch of U of C profs that voted Trudeau . Next thing you know they will claim 90 % of the carbon tax is rebated back to folks
This is a really interesting reaction to published research from academic economists. You offered two different "joke" (or non-joke? who can tell at this point) conspiracy theories about why the economists didn't give an answer you were hoping for.
You can actually read the full conflict of interest disclosures here:
[QUOTE=Economist]I am not a member of any political party at any level of government. Occasional (unpaid) advice and analysis has been provided to individual candidates, office holders, or staff on an ad-hoc basis representing the full spectrum of political parties in Alberta and Canada.[/QUOTE]
Ultimately suppose that he is wrong by a full factor of 2, that the carbon tax is TWICE as bad as his analysis shows. Then you'd go from 0.5% increase to 1%.
If you were intellectually honest, you'd say no this research is wrong because of [insert academic reason]. But instead you just immediately launch into a smear campaign.
By the way, the PBO confirmed that 90% of the carbon tax is rebated. I'm not quite sure why you have a conspiracy theory about that either.
You've really become unhinged, a break from politics is probably in your best interest.
That said it's pretty easy, Canada can do a better job of controlling who they let in the country, better screening at boarder crossings, arrest illegal immigrants, stop handing out visas like Candy. We've done this before, it's just in the past 4-8 years there has been a gigantic increase in illegal boarder crossings and known terror suspects being arrested at the border. If we can band together to stop clim
Well, when your largest trading partners threatens a 25% tariff which would completely decimate the Canadian economy and people of your own country start chanting his talking points back to you it's a little......sad?
Nothing you list there sounds "easy" at all - more like vague half-baked talking points. The kind of stuff someone comes up with when they have had about a day to learn about a problem they were never aware of before hand. Not that it sounds like Trump know either, so expecting a Trump parrot to be able to know is asking a bit much, but where exactly in the 8000km border are we uh stopping the illegal border crossings?
Well, when your largest trading partners threatens a 25% tariff which would completely decimate the Canadian economy and people of your own country start chanting his talking points back to you it's a little......sad?
Nothing you list there sounds "easy" at all - more like vague half-baked talking points. The kind of stuff someone comes up with when they have had about a day to learn about a problem they were never aware of before hand. Not that it sounds like Trump know either, so expecting a T
Another massive Fentanyl bust in BC
Hey if the PM had done his job and met the 2% nato threshold and protected the border we wouldn’t be looking at a 25 % tariff
Will see if he does anything or just expresses he is concerned and does nothing than is shocked when we have a 25 % tariff
Well, when your largest trading partners threatens a 25% tariff which would completely decimate the Canadian economy and people of your own country start chanting his talking points back to you it's a little......sad?
Nah, it's more like they are our greatest ally, have all the leverage and probably aren't wrong in saying we have no control of our borders. So rather than saying "band together to fight" why not just secure the borders?
Nothing you list there sounds "easy" at all - more like vague half-baked talking points. The kind of stuff someone comes up with when they have had about a day to learn about a problem they were never aware of before hand. Not that it sounds like Trump know either, so expecting a Trump parrot to be able to know is asking a bit much, but where exactly in the 8000km border are we uh stopping the illegal border crossings?
It was easy, we did it for decades. How do you explain the recent increase in encounters at the border? This a new problem that drastically increased over the past few years. Our safety minister is already trying to solve the problem:
Canada is considering supplying the RCMP and border agency with more resources including drones, helicopters and personnel in case of a “surge” at the border, Public Safety Minister Dominic LeBlanc said Tuesday in response to Donald Trump’s threat to impose steep tariffs on Canadian imports into the U.S.
Hey if the PM had done his job and met the 2% nato threshold and protected the border we wouldn’t be looking at a 25 % tariff
Oh look, another MAGA-clone spouting the trump talking points when they have never once in this entire thread ever suggested we ought to be "protecting the border" previously.
Our safety minister is already trying to solve the problem:
As awesome as it has been seeing Team Trudeau take immediate action to work together to protect Canada from Trump's insidious threats, I think we ALL know that throwing some money at drones and a couple helicopters isn't going to magically "secure the 8800km border" or whatever your guy's new mantra now is.
Is Bitcoin still worthless and going to zero? sorry I haven't kept up with the experts opinion on it.
there is no expert on bitcoin lol.
Experts can’t even agree which stock will go up or down .
Can’t even predict 6 month in advance if inflation will go up or down
What a useless comparaison ….
Bunch of U of C profs that voted Trudeau . Next thing you know they will claim 90 % of the carbon tax is rebated back to folks
The carbon tax is going just like Justin what scares me is how much more damage he will do in his last 9 months of office and than once we get a new government how bad the mess is that he created in 9 years .
They were not all university teachers and not all the teachers are leftish, especially in economics ffs ….
Another conspiracy narrated by lozen .
I feel like if you won't even entertain that experts like economic professors might be correct and your gut feels might be wrong, then you are in a really really bad place politically.
Trump Truth socials about his great conversation with the Mexico PM I must have missed his tweet about the great conversation with Justin
Even the premiers are saying Trudeau is not taking the threat serious enough
As awesome as it has been seeing Team Trudeau take immediate action to work together to protect Canada from Trump's insidious threats, I think we ALL know that throwing some money at drones and a couple helicopters isn't going to magically "secure the 8800km border" or whatever your guy's new mantra now is.
Why are encounters at the border increasing? Why have they sky rocketed the last couple of years, in your opinion what has changed? Both American and Canadian officials (not just trump) have said there is a problem at the border.
Trump Truth socials about his great conversation with the Mexico PM I must have missed his tweet about the great conversation with Justin
Even the premiers are saying Trudeau is not taking the threat serious enough
Not even sitting President yet and essentially solved the southern border crises with one social media post.
Oh look, another MAGA-clone spouting the trump talking points when they have never once in this entire thread ever suggested we ought to be "protecting the border" previously.
maybe trump stole the talking point from lozen? that's kind of what populists do. Trump has alot of stupid ideas but agreeing with one thing trump has said does not make you stupid. Its not us vs them. its idea vs idea
