The "LOLCANADA" thread...again
So what's new?
I've noticed the Liberals are now ahead in all major polls and Trudeau hasn't even started to campaign yet...i'd be shocked if they lost the election now.
Just shows just how incompetent Conservatives are.
maybe trump stole the talking point from lozen? that's kind of what populists do. Trump has alot of stupid ideas but agreeing with one thing trump has said does not make you stupid. It’s not us vs them. its idea vs idea
Ok. Putting a 25% tariff on Canada because you conflated it with Mexico border issues is a stupid idea.
Why are encounters at the border increasing? Why have they sky rocketed the last couple of years, in your opinion what has changed? Both American and Canadian officials (not just trump) have said there is a problem at the border.
Well you’re the expert having studied this issue for a full 24 hours at this point and think this is “simple” to “secure the border” so yes why don’t you tell us all.
Ok. Putting a 25% tariff on Canada because you conflated it with Mexico border issues is a stupid idea.
I doubt his real reasons to threaten tariffs have anything to do with any border. Im sure lozen agrees and he still thinks its an important second issue . There is some American policy which makes it easier to tarrif us if they claim the border is unsecure. Still playing his game and securing the border takes his excuse to tarrif away and well... secures the border. its a win win so I'm sure you will argue against it for the next couple months
I doubt his real reasons to threaten tariffs have anything to do with any border. Im sure lozen agrees and he still thinks its an important second issue . There is some American policy which makes it easier to tarrif us if they claim the border is unsecure. Still playing his game and securing the border takes his excuse to tarrif away and well... secures the border. its a win win so I'm sure you will argue against it for the next couple months
I still think it’s all about NATO . Fentanyl has always been a big political issue for me and Canada is becoming a problem as well . When the border is brought up I know Quebec Premier says it’s a big issue and the stats show it continues to get worse
Sadly I don’t see Trudeau taking the issue to seriously and will find out how serious Trump is when he takes office . I wouldn’t be surprised to see Premiers acting in their provinces best interests with Justin just acting concerned
This will be tough when your dealing with a huge narcissist and Trump
I doubt his real reasons to threaten tariffs have anything to do with any border. Im sure lozen agrees and he still thinks it’s an important second issue . There is some American policy which makes it easier to tarrif us if they claim the border is unsecure. Still playing his game and securing the border takes his excuse to tarrif away and well... secures the border. its a win win so I'm sure you will argue against it for the next couple months
I can assure you lozen has never once posted about “secure the border” before Trump said it so no, this is not some important second issue for him. It’s just repeating the Trump talking point. You might be right that not even Trump believes the talking point. Heck, nobody has yet been able to articulate what precisely “secure the border” even means in trumps mind.
I still think it’s all about NATO . Fentanyl has always been a big political issue for me and Canada is becoming a problem as well . When the border is brought up I know Quebec Premier says it’s a big issue and the stats show it continues to get worse
Sadly I don’t see Trudeau taking the issue to seriously and will find out how serious Trump is when he takes office . I wouldn’t be surprised to see Premiers acting in their provinces best interests with Justin just acting c
If the secret real reason is NATO, why is no other NATO country with less than 2% on the tariff list? Why just Canada? If you right though, you should be VERY concerned about the guy who refuses to even pledge to hit the 2% target!
The Quebec premier thinks the border is an issue because of trump! That his mass deportation plans will lead to illegal immigrants in the US fleeing to Canada. This isn’t remotely a simple or easy problem to solve no matter what Shifty says as we have an 8800km largely unmanned unwalled border. Securing that would be a price tag in the trillions and a timeline in the decades.
If the secret real reason is NATO, why is no other NATO country with less than 2% on the tariff list? Why just Canada? If you right though, you should be VERY concerned about the guy who refuses to even pledge to hit the 2% target!
The Quebec premier thinks the border is an issue because of trump! That his mass deportation plans will lead to illegal immigrants in the US fleeing to Canada. This isn’t remotely a simple or easy problem to solve no matter what Shifty says as we have an 8800km largel
I already stated why. I don't think he has the power to apply tariffs for not meeting NATO targets . He is bound by things that are direct threats Fentanyl and Illegal immigration are direct threats
Your right the border wasn't on my radar as I live in the west and most of the crossings are the east but when it happened it wasn't hard to watch CDN news and google the numbers to see it is becoming a threat .
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The Quebec premier thinks the border is an issue because of trump! That his mass deportation plans will lead to illegal immigrants in the US fleeing to Canada. This isn’t remotely a simple or easy problem to solve no matter what Shifty says as we have an 8800km largely unmanned unwalled border. Securing that would be a price tag in the trillions and a timeline in the decades.
Its been done before, the border problem has grown in the last few years. What changed?
Another Liberal claiming to be Indigenous ?
Saw the Feds cancelled all contracts to Randy's old company
You’re the 48hr old expert who thinks it is “simple”. When was our 8800km secure as you claim was done before? You tell us what policy change you imagine happened!
I think Trump has no idea. I think you are parroting Trump. I think you have no idea.
You’re the 48hr old expert who thinks it is “simple”. When was our 8800km secure as you claim was done before? You tell us what policy change you imagine happened!
You can continue acting like a child, or read the stats and articles I've posted. It's obvious Canada's immigration system is broken.
Doubt it, I am pretty sure he knows exactly what he's doing. I think Trudeau has no idea what to do, he either admits he failed while admitting Trump is right and secures the border and takes the L, destroys the Canadian economy even more or starts a trade war we can't win with our greatest ally.
Personally I think him and the Liberals are trying o decide what option is best to screw the Conservatives for when they take power.
ya the way to appease someone like trump is to play along and appease his ego especially at first. having an outgoing prime minister that doesn't seem to get along and to be seen by the right as a commy is not the best
By doing...WHAT? You keep saying this. You say it is simple, that it has been secure before. What are you talking about? Like are you talking about throwing an extra, say, 50 million at having a few more border agents with drones and maybe tweak a policy here or there? Is that what "secure the border" means in your mind?
Because *I* think this entire ****ing "secure the border" is a complete scapegoat invented in the mind of Trump because he loves tariffs and wants to punish Canada and thinks announcing some big threat of a 25% economy-destroying tariff makes him look macho and strong. This isn't the same thing as saying there are zero border issues, but the punishment is completely and outrageously disproportionate to the problem and "admitting he failed" sounds more like a conservative wet dream then any type of actual policy proposal.
Personally I think him and the Liberals are trying o decide what option is best to screw the Conservatives for when they take power.
Lol at the conspiracy theories.
ya the way to appease someone like trump is to play along and appease his ego especially at first. having an outgoing prime minister that doesn't seem to get along and to be seen by the right as a commy is not the best
Indeed. Having Trudeau and Sheinbaum grovelling and saying yes yes yes of course Mr. President we will take this border issue VERY seriously please don't destroy our economy seems like most of what he wants.
Sick man.
By doing...WHAT? You keep saying this. You say it is simple, that it has been secure before. What are you talking about? Like are you talking about throwing an extra, say, 50 million at having a few more border agents with drones and maybe tweak a policy here or there? Is that what "secure the border" means in your mind?
Sure, drones better patrol whatever it takes. It's basically the number 1 job of any competent government is to secure the border. Mostly I think it's better immigration policies the last few years have gotten completely out of control and that's been admitted by the Liberals and a Trudeau himself. If it's not a failure by the Liberals then explain the increase in encounters the past 2 years.
Because *I* think this entire ****ing "secure the border" is a complete scapegoat invented in the mind of Trump because he loves tariffs and wants to punish Canada and thinks announcing some big threat of a 25% economy-destroying tariff makes him look macho and strong. This isn't the same thing as saying there are zero border issues, but the punishment is completely and outrageously disproportionate to the problem and "admitting he failed" sounds more like a conservative wet dream then any type
Nah, Americans don't care about Canada. He's doing what he was elected to do, he doesn't need to impose 25% tariffs on Canada to feel "macho" he's the most popular president in history.
Ya ok, I am sure Trudeau and the Liberals aren't thinking at all about how they can use this to benefit them.
Indeed. Having Trudeau and Sheinbaum grovelling and saying yes yes yes of course Mr. President we will take this border issue VERY seriously please don't destroy our economy seems like most of what he wants.
Sick man.
Liberal mind reading at its best. Securing the border was basically his #1 campaign promise and big reason why he won.
Liberal mind reading at its best. Securing the border was basically his #1 campaign promise and big reason why he won.
Absolutely. The border with Mexico was a huge campaign issue. One he deliberately sabotaged the bi-partisan border deal in the Biden presidency SO THAT the border would be terrible and he could run against it.
But Canada?
It's easy for bad MAGA types (and their clones in Canada) to just get confused and conflate the borders, but the Canadian border was not some big #1 campaign promise but for like the most minor tangential rah rah borders way. Which is appropriate because whatever problems there might be at the border, they are a tiny fraction of the ones at the mexico border.
Sure, drones better patrol whatever it takes.
Mostly I think it's better immigration policies the last few years have gotten completely out of control and that's been admitted by the Liberals and a Trudeau himself.
Lol "whatever it takes". I'm not sure why it is so hard to admit that Canada's 8800km border with the US can't in any realistic way be "secured" and baring trillions in spending and decades of work, if someone wants to illegally cross either direction that is going to be able to happen and a few drones and patrols will barely make a difference to that stark reality.
And lol at the policy salad. One can be mad - if you must - at higher numbers of international students and temporary foreign workers and Trudeau "admitted" that while these both made a LOT of sense when there was a huge clamouring in 2021 for more workers, that now is the time to ease off as they have done. But that has next to nothing to do with "securing the border". Like what is your crazed theory here, that international students go to university in Canada and then are are en masse illegally sneaking into the US?
Absolutely. The border with Mexico was a huge campaign issue. One he deliberately sabotaged the bi-partisan border deal in the Biden presidency SO THAT the border would be terrible and he could run against it.
But Canada?
It's easy for bad MAGA types (and their clones in Canada) to just get confused and conflate the borders, but the Canadian border was not some big #1 campaign promise but for like the most minor tangential rah rah borders way. Which is appropriate because whatever problems there
Aghh Trump talking Points there you go with MSNBC talking points . The democrats did nothing on the border for over 3 years as millions and millions poured in. Than when they were losing in the polls because of the border they presented a border bill that neither one of us have read. Trump did tell them not to vote for it as he said it wasn't tough enough and the American people spoke up giving him the electoral college, popular vote, senate and house. A clear message to do what he is doing .
There is a clear message across this country and its Trudeau resign
All countries , like inflation, had a massive surge , not just Canada .
That’s the difference .
And I said it already for some time .
Why are they immigrating ?
Cut the problem at the sources .
China been manufacturing over 25% of worldwide supply of stuffs .
Transfer manufacturing in others countries to create better and prosperous environment for them so they don’t have to leave in the first place .
You can continue acting like a child, or read the stats and articles I've posted. It's obvious Canada's immigration system is broken.
Doubt it, I am pretty sure he knows exactly what he's doing. I think Trudeau has no idea what to do, he either admits he failed while admitting Trump is right and secures the border and takes the L, destroys the Canadian economy even more or starts a trade war we can't win with our greatest ally.
Personally I think him and the Liberals are trying o decide what opt
Didn’t trump promised already in his first term to stop illegal immigration by building a wall ?
It didn’t solved anything and it didn’t stop .
Why he thinks other will be successful when he even can’t do it by himself ?
And again comparing Mexico and Canada immigration problems with the same kind of tariffs is utter crap .
Aghh Trump talking Points there you go with MSNBC talking points . The democrats did nothing on the border for over 3 years as millions and millions poured in. Than when they were losing in the polls because of the border they presented a border bill that neither one of us have read. Trump did tell them not to vote for it as he said it wasn't tough enough and the American people spoke up giving him the electoral college, popular vote, senate and house. A clear message to do what he is doing .
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Doesn’t matter the time frame .
Republicans are knows to do everything in their power (especially with especially with trump) to make no deals with democrats in power .
So your point is meh .
Sure, drones better patrol whatever it takes. It's basically the number 1 job of any competent government is to secure the border. Mostly I think it's better immigration policies the last few years have gotten completely out of control and that's been admitted by the Liberals and a Trudeau himself. If it's not a failure by the Liberals then explain the increase in encounters the past 2 years.
"Better immigration policies" have nothing to do with a secure border. Immigration policies determine who you allow into the country through the immigration process. Immigration policy in no way impacts, or is related to, how secure a country's border is, or is not. Are you just so stumped on what "secure the border" means or entails that you're changing the subject? Because that's what bringing up immigration policy is - changing to a completely different subject.
LOL, WTF is this? Do you just repeat all the nonsense he says without thinking, or do you actually believe this? If it's the latter, what are you basing that on? I've never seen anything that indicates such a thing; every source I've seen indicates the opposite.
Didn’t trump promised already in his first term to stop illegal immigration by building a wall ?
It didn’t solved anything and it didn’t stop .
Why he thinks other will be successful when he even can’t do it by himself ?
And again comparing Mexico and Canada immigration problems with the same kind of tariffs is utter crap .
When you do not have the votes you cant get the funds to build a wall. He did build some wall. I remember Biden said he would not build another foot of wall but political pressure and a tight senate seat in Arizona and he built walls.
Under Trump border crossings were massively lower than under Biden
"Better immigration policies" have nothing to do with a secure border. Immigration policies determine who you allow into the country through the immigration process. Immigration policy in no way impacts, or is related to, how secure a country's border is, or is not. Are you just so stumped on what "secure the border" means or entails that you're changing the subject? Because that's what bringing up immigration policy is - changing to a completely different subject.
LOL, WTF is this? Do you just r
One of the worst policies that increased illegal border crossings was when Trudeau removed the requirement to get a visa to travel from Mexico to Canada . Many Mexicans figured out fly to Montreal cross the border .
I saw on the West Block that we have 1-2 million temporary work visas expiring next year . That number is staggering
Reality is Trump is not bluffing and the feds need to take this super serious
