Talk About Movies: Part 4
Somehow threads merged, so here's part 4 of our ongoing movie discussion.
The Artifice Girl
This is an AMAZING Turing test AI film that plays out like a stage play in three parts.
The movie basically takes place in three rooms and if talking and dialog is not important to you, you should probably just go see Gladiator 2 or Wicked.
I think this gives Ex Machina a run for it's money and maybe more important.
An amazing low budget independent film.
Just watched this and thought it was pretty good. I tend to enjoy dialogue heavy movies with small casts that take place in one or few locations. In fact, I watched Tape just before it.
The movie made me question the concept of "AI rights"—though not for reasons I've heard suggested—which I always dismissed. I don't believe machines will ever be sentient (not that we'd be able to prove it one way or the other), so the idea that they should be given rights for their own protection seems to be a weak argument. However, if there are humanoid AIs that are indistinguishable from humans as we perceive them, then a case could be made that they should be treated with a certain level of respect, given the implications of not setting those boundaries for humans.
Also, I almost didn't realize that was Lance Henriksen. It's been a while since I've seen him in something.
I reviewed The Artifice Girl a couple years ago here....I enjoyed it quite a bit
Just watched this and thought it was pretty good. I tend to enjoy dialogue heavy movies with small casts that take place in one or few locations. In fact, I watched Tape just before it.
The movie made me question the concept of "AI rights"—though not for reasons I've heard suggested—which I always dismissed. I don't believe machines will ever be sentient (not that we'd be able to prove it one way or the other), so the idea that they should be given rights for their own protection seems to be a w
The only AI laws we need are Asimov's Three Laws Of Robotics:
- 1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm.
- 2. A robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law.
- 3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
The language is too vague.
Trolley problem robot meltdown
People still read Asimov?
I understand how people view Manhattan as a portrait of Allen's life, the accusations of pedophilia.
I understand Allen's portrait of the self-obessed, the shallow.
But I think Allen's character is like the Greek chorus, commenting on the self-obessed.
It's a comedy, not a documentary.
I find the relationship between Allen and Hemingway's character affecting and compelling.
It has this line: "I wrote this short story about my mother called ‘The Castrating Zionist.’”
Willis's cinematography is perfect. Gershwin's music is sublime.
As with most of Allen's film, it's a story of love and loss.
Hemingway's pitch-perfect performance.
It's one of my favorite films.
The final shot:
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Language... is a Virus.
I understand how people view Manhattan as a portrait of Allen's life, the accusations of pedophilia.
Those people have 20/20 hindsight. It's a work of art, not a political manifesto.
But I think Allen's character is like the Greek chorus
I thought Hemingway was the Greek chorus.
It has this line: "I wrote this short story about my mother called ‘The Castrating Zionist.’”
I had that in there originally, but cut it.
I understand Allen's portrait of the self-obessed, the shallow.
I thought that originally, but that is what I thought about Do The Right Thing originally. I have no way of knowing how self aware Allen is.
Manhattan is a great film, period.
I didn't really like Control, a 2007 film about the tragic life of Joy Division's Ian Curtis. It looked stylish as hell, all black and white and minimalistic, but I felt like it had zero insights into Curtis's character. He just seemed like a blank, like a cardboard cutout of a troubled artist.
Yeah, they could have done better. Curtis was such a unique guy and a unique songwriter. We're better off just listening to their music.
The Artifice Girl
This is an AMAZING Turing test AI film that plays out like a stage play in three parts.
The movie basically takes place in three rooms and if talking and dialog is not important to you, you should probably just go see Gladiator 2 or Wicked.
I think this gives Ex Machina a run for it's money and maybe more important.
An amazing low budget independent film.
Your post made me watch Artifice just now. It was much better than I expected and i liked it. I have been interacting with some AI bots using voice to voice lately. So this hit me hard.
It reminded me of the red queen character fron Resident Evil.
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Artifice is rather startling at some points in the film... I am surprised I missed this when it was first released.
Franklin Ritch, the actor who played Gareth (the main character), wrote, directed and lead acted in this film.
William Friedkin, Bug, was an wonderful directorial project... the cinematography and direction are very polished and poignant to the story at hand.
The ending strikes close to home.
I didn't really like Control, a 2007 film about the tragic life of Joy Division's Ian Curtis. It looked stylish as hell, all black and white and minimalistic, but I felt like it had zero insights into Curtis's character. He just seemed like a blank, like a cardboard cutout of a troubled artist.
control was terrible, no plot nor story - absolutely phoned in and should have never been greenlit
24 Hour Party People was more entertaining about that Manchester music scene
Dean Martin: King of Cool was very good. Smart but also quite touching.
Otoh, Ken Burns' Leonardo da Vinci was godawful, probably the worst I've ever seen from him.
Heretic, Scott Beck/Bryan Woods, 2024
I'm not sure why, but the movies that have most impressed me the last few years mostly seem to be in the horror genre. Heretic is another one.
Writers Beck and Woods, who also co-wrote A Quiet Place, have fashioned a truly original horror movie that also nicely follows the genre's tropes and expectations.
Two young women, played by Sophie Thatcher and Chloe East, are Mormon missionaries who knock on the wrong door - that of Hugh Grant. He lets them in from th
Just saw it. It was good. First half was very good but the second half was a let down which a lot of horror films suffered from this year.
I watched a nice Sci Fi film from a Lithuanian-French-Belgian collaboration about a 14 year old girl that tries to keep her father alive and restore the ecosystem in a post apocalyptic society... it was low budget, but it looked pretty good for a movie that only cost 5 million dollars to produce.
Vesper is very well acted (99% of the film is just acting, very little action) and has that European Sci Fi sensibility in it's mood and production look... Definitely NOT from a US based production company.
Despite the VERY bleak and hopelessness, the movie is ultimately hopeful and uplifting.
"So I took that [David Mamet] page, and I handed it in, and it got a C+. And I said, 'Alright, now I know I'm right.'"
