$1.5K Satellite, a few spots multiway
1 seat is guaranteed. We are miles away from it. The satellite has a mix of players, good and bad.
Hand1: Early stages
Hero has 55BB
Villain1 has ~55BB
Villain 2 has 170BB
Preflop: Hero has A♣ Q♥ UTG+1
1 fold, hero raises to 2.2BB, 1 fold, Villain 1 calls, 1 fold, Villain 2 calls OTB, both blinds fold
Flop: A♦ 9♥ 3♠
Hero bets 2.5BB, Villain 1 folds, Villain 2 calls
Turn: T♦
Hero bets 5.6BB, Villain 2 raises to 15.1BB, hero?
Villain 2 has been a bit active but nothing crazy at this point. I don't know how they got their big stack. It feels like folding is the best player, but I feel like I am being pushed around.
Hand 2:
Hero 45BB
Villain 1 50BB
Villain 2 90BB,
Villain 3 80BB
Preflop: Hero raises to 2.2BB in MP w Q♠ T♠
Villain 1 in CO raises to 6BB, Villain 2 calls OTB, Villain 3 calls in Sb, Hero calls
Flop: T♣ 4♠ 2♦
Sb checks, Hero checks, Villain 1 (3 bettor checks), Villain 2 bets 12.9BB, Sb folds, Hero?
It's such a large Cbet. Kind of threw me. Because he won't really get called by worse with such a large bet. Are we ripping this? What is the minimum that you shove in this spot, AT?
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Hand 1... don't fold! If he's active call and see a river.
Hand 2 ... do you have any button clicking sizing tells on this donk? Not folding this flop. Probably shoving. It's a win for you if he folds AQ KQ even AK because if any of those over cards drop it really sucks to fold away this pot.
Hand 1 - I'd fold. We're uncapped and there aren't really any draws he could have especially after calling 3 way OTF. Stacks are awkward as well for a raise - clear fold to me.
Hand 2 - tough spot, I wonder what he does with hands like 77/88/99. This is really a population play decision - if they're capable of betting mid pairs like this then we jam, if not then easy fold.
Hand 1: No idea what I would do. It seems clear that OTB Villain 2 can just be bluffing. He could have hands that are now diamond draws. He could have QJ and was looking to see what happened on the turn (whether you would bet or not). Normally I consider folding because we beat basically just AJ and AXs that isn't two pairs. But those hands won't typically raise because they are likely behind. Villain can have hands like 99/33/T9/AT/A9/A3 too. I don't like calling the turn and then facing a river jam so I prefer folding here.
Hand 2: I call this and see if we improve on the turn (but I get it if you folded). It can be that Villain 1 will jam with JJ+ but they should have cbet and my guess is they have AK or possibly 99. Villain 2 can have a wide range here though TT/44/22 are possibilities (though TT would likely have 3-bet preflop). The bet sizing at half pot is not really that extreme. It is a standard value bet. Could even be JT/T9s/T8s. If this wasn't a bluff Villain 2 will likely jam HU against us on the turn which would make it slightly difficult if a spade comes on the turn. I don't think I jam with anything (except 42s which would be a rare case) because there are basically no draws so it would mean we have a monster. I'm guessing Villain 2 will be betting the turn no matter what.
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Hand 1 - I'd fold. We're uncapped and there aren't really any draws he could have especially after calling 3 way OTF. Stacks are awkward as well for a raise - clear fold to me.
Yeah, I think I agree.
Hand 2 is such a shitty spot. We have a good top pair but also a cold call preflop and then a bet this big on the flop rarely seems like we have the best hand-- unless villain would actually do this with 88/99. JJ seems more likely to me. And you still have the original 3-better behind you. Folding really sucks, but I think it's very hard for you to get your money in good here.
Hand 1 it feels like this is just an underbluffed spot. I would avoid thinking anyone is pushing you around. People underbluff. Especially turn raises
Hand 2 I guess it is close now, but calling pre seems unnecessary. The button and sb cold calling could have a lot of hands that have QTs in rough shape. Anything from pocket pairs TT+ or high cards that dominate us.