UnitedHealth CEO Assassinated

UnitedHealth CEO Assassinated

The murder of UnitedHealthcare's CEO is a strange story. On the one hand, the killer obviously was taking steps to avoid getting caught. He was wearing a hoodie. He used a silencer. He clearly had an escape plan.

On the other hand, he was wearing a distinctive backpack. He may have left a food wrapper and a water bottle at the scene. And there was writing on each of the three shell casings (the words "deny," "defend," and "depose").

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05 December 2024 at 03:09 PM
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Possibly to do with insurance? Or maybe personal but "deny" written on one of the bullets makes me wonder re insurance.


by corpus vile k

Possibly to do with insurance? Or maybe personal but "deny" written on one of the bullets makes me wonder re insurance.

The assumption all along has been that the shooter was someone who was angry about a denial of coverage. I still would rate that as the most likely motive, but I would have expected a person who was that distraught to care less about avoiding detection.

I also am confused as to how the shooter knew what hotel the CEO was staying in and approximately when he might be leaving the hotel. The annual investor conference was very close by, so maybe he was just playing the odds.


by Rococo k

The murder of UnitedHealthcare's CEO is a strange story. On the one hand, the killer obviously was taking steps to avoid getting caught. He was wearing a hoodie. He used a silencer. He clearly had an escape plan.

On the other hand, he was wearing a distinctive backpack. He may have left a food wrapper and a water bottle at the scene. And there was writing on each of the three shell casings (the words "deny," "defend," and "depose").

It seems pretty weird to think the guy would take the steps he took and then leave prints at the scene. First I'm hearing about writing on the shell casings. That feels red-herringish though.

Have they said what the brand of backpack was?


Interesting that he had received threats, has a security team, but for some reason they weren't with him.


by Luckbox Inc k

Interesting that he had received threats, has a security team, but for some reason they weren't with him.

This is a weird story, for sure. I'm very curious to see what it is all about. Given how much evidence there is I'm sure the FBI will get to the bottom of it.

CEOs might have some level of security, but in general getting close to them isn't that difficult.



by campfirewest k

CEOs might have some level of security, but in general getting close to them isn't that difficult.

If they are just out on the street, this is correct. I passed Mike Bloomberg in midtown the other day. Almost no one has more money than he does. He was walking and talking with some middle-aged women in business attire. I highly doubt that she was personal security.


The guy seemed to make all the right moves though. Hid his face , took off on a bike and dumped that in Central Park and than disappeared . The reality this is someone very important and all the resources will be set out to solve this


by Luckbox Inc k

It seems pretty weird to think the guy would take the steps he took and then leave prints at the scene.

It turns out that the bottle and wrapper were fished out of a trash can. They weren't left at the scene.


by Rococo k

The murder of UnitedHealthcare's CEO is a strange story. On the one hand, the killer obviously was taking steps to avoid getting caught. He was wearing a hoodie. He used a silencer. He clearly had an escape plan.

On the other hand, he was wearing a distinctive backpack. He may have left a food wrapper and a water bottle at the scene. And there was writing on each of the three shell casings (the words "deny," "defend," and "depose").

And the guy pretty calmly unjammed his gun during the process like a pro. Suppressors cause more carbon build up or something leading to more jams, certain subsonic bullets with the wrong combination of gun may not have enough umph to reliably eject every shell. You would think a pro would avoid this. Guess he knew there was an issue with his setup and was prepared for the jam?


by Rococo k

It turns out that the bottle and wrapper were fished out of a trash can. They weren't left at the scene.

Same thing afaict


I'm familiar with that company Peak Design-- they're most well known for their camera straps/harness system which is something I'm still in the market for but they're expensive....but yeah it's definitely not just something you can find at a Walmart.

And yeah lol @ that price on ebay.


by 5 south k

And the guy pretty calmly unjammed his gun during the process like a pro. Suppressors cause more carbon build up or something leading to more jams, certain subsonic bullets with the wrong combination of gun may not have enough umph to reliably eject every shell. You would think a pro would avoid this. Guess he knew there was an issue with his setup and was prepared for the jam?

Looked into it a bit. Sounds like it wasn't a jam but had to manually rack each round.


by 5 south k

Looked into it a bit. Sounds like it wasn't a jam but had to manually rack each round.

Not a gun person whatsoever but that seems bizarre.


by Rococo k

The assumption all along has been that the shooter was someone who was angry about a denial of coverage. I still would rate that as the most likely motive, but I would have expected a person who was that distraught to care less about avoiding detection.

I also am confused as to how the shooter knew what hotel the CEO was staying in and approximately when he might be leaving the hotel. The annual investor conference was very close by, so maybe he was just playing the odds.

The victim was apparently facing a DOJ insider trading probe, which adds another level of murkiness to things, although so far I'm still inclined to think it's insurance related.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companie...


by Luckbox Inc k

Not a gun person whatsoever but that seems bizarre.

Same


by Luckbox Inc k

Not a gun person whatsoever but that seems bizarre.

The subsonic rounds (at least the ones this guy was using) didn't have enough grain/gunpowder/whatever to completely blowback the slide to eject the empty casing, so he had to manually rack the slide after each shot to chamber a fresh round.
If you find the unedited video you'll see he has to do this after every shot and was prepared for it.

Edit: or the gun is designed to be one shot at a time.


Police believe the shooter used a B&T Station Six, known in Great Britain as a Welrod pistol, according to police sources. The gun doesn't have a silencer but does have a long barrel that enables the 9 mm to fire a nearly silent shot. The gun requires manually cycling ammunition from the magazine.


Never heard of anything like that but it would seem like an odd choice for any sort of professional hitperson.


Exotic gun should be easier to trace also.


by Luckbox Inc k

Never heard of anything like that but it would seem like an odd choice for any sort of professional hitperson.

Go check out some History on Welrod.


by wet work k

Go check out some History on Welrod.

The silencer is built into the gun?

Tracing its roots back to the covert, World War II-era Welrod pistol, as well as the more modernized contract VP9, the all-new Station SIX-9 (Silenced Project caliber 9) harkens back to the famed Bride Hall weapons acquisition section, or SOE Station VI, and later Station IX, where the original concept was conceived.

This updated, integrally suppressed pistol features a new grip and updated magazines, yet maintains its non-descript appearance, whisper-quiet sound signature and unique rotating bolt operation. This model in 9mm wears a 3-in. barrel. It finds its operational success as a magazine-fed, non-auto-ejecting single-shot functioning in a rotational bolt action. It is beautifully enhanced by wipe suppressor, and a baffled suppressor is an available option for those who prefer that design.

Apparently so.


Seems like it's more designed to be a one shot, one kill kind of thing leaving no casing behind but still got the job done.


The one dude was apparently using isn't the original but a modern gun based on it.

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