UnitedHealth CEO Assassinated
The murder of UnitedHealthcare's CEO is a strange story. On the one hand, the killer obviously was taking steps to avoid getting caught. He was wearing a hoodie. He used a silencer. He clearly had an escape plan.
On the other hand, he was wearing a distinctive backpack. He may have left a food wrapper and a water bottle at the scene. And there was writing on each of the three shell casings (the words "deny," "defend," and "depose").
As Rococo said nothing is certain and cops are open minded that writing on the casing could be an attempt to throw them off. They have good images and at least one fingerprint so far so they may well catch the killer.
Sorry but this is bullshit. There's plenty of Breivicks and Dylan Roofs as well. Piazza Gontana bombing wasn't by leftists either.
Where in what i wrote did i imply there isn't terrorism from the right as well?
What i wrote though is that leftism is *structurally* like that, i mean it's in the words of Marx himself
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The purposeless massacres perpetrated since the June and October events, the tedious offering of sacrifices since February and March, the very cannibalism of the counterrevolution will convince the nations that there is only one way in which the murderous death agonies of the old society and the bloody birth throes of the new society can be shortened, simplified and concentrated, and that way is revolutionary terror
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https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/wo...
So anyone who doesn't completly denounces all of Marxism as inherently terroristical, anyone who makes a significant portion of marxism his own ideology, is inherently a terrorist sympathizer.
ONLY ONE WAY. REVOLUTIONARY TERROR.
I had a friend who died from brain cancer and she had all sorts of problems with insurance. I don't know the details though.
I suspect that a lot of the most serious disputes arise in this sort of situation. If you are dying, and there is some experimental treatment that might help you, it is entirely rational to want to give it a try. And it's also the sort of thing that insurance companies probably try to resist paying for, especially if the treatment is expensive.
Where in what i wrote did i imply there isn't terrorism from the right as well?
What i wrote though is that leftism is *structurally* like that, i mean it's in the words of Marx himself
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The purposeless massacres perpetrated since the June and October events, the tedious offering of sacrifices since February and March, the very cannibalism of the counterrevolution will convince the nations that
Maybe take this tired debate over the definition of Marxism to another thread?
I suspect that a lot of the most serious disputes arise in this sort of situation. If you are dying, and there is some experimental treatment that might help you, it is entirely rational to want to give it a try. And it's also the sort of thing that insurance companies probably try to resist paying for, especially if the treatment is expensive.
Not sure about that. 32% denial seems very high.
**** this CEO guy. World is a marginally better place without him and others may now take note (ha ha).
Americans want it all the ways on health care. We want everything to be covered. We want to be able to see doctors more or less immediately. But we also want health insurance to be much cheaper than it is now.
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Very cheap is impossible but there are ways to get the same you get now, but cheaper. But entrenched interests are very good at fighting against that.
Foreign doctors can't just come and work in the USA immediatly for example. The training required to become a certified doctor is too long. Many procedures that require a doctor could be moved to require nurses only.
Bureaucracy is hell (like for every other sector of the economy) and increases costs by a lot.
Then there is the lack of enough strongarming of suppliers by public payers.
And of course if you want to cover everyone, given the supply is fixed/bottlenecked, coverage will get worse for everyone else who was previously covered.
That's a mathematical certainty which people who ask for "universal coverage", or who praise ACA because it increased coverage, keep denying.
As usual regulations are the main causes of the fixable problems .
Maybe when there is the assassination of a "leader of capitalism" discussing the fact that there is an ideology with millions of adherent in the USA which is in favor of those events is on topic?
Maybe if he's a leader of capitalism it's a good time instead to discuss how badly capitalism in the health care sector has failed the population?
Where in what i wrote did i imply there isn't terrorism from the right as well?
What i wrote though is that leftism is *structurally* like that, i mean it's in the words of Marx himself
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The purposeless massacres perpetrated since the June and October events, the tedious offering of sacrifices since February and March, the very cannibalism of the counterrevolution will convince the nations that
First of all you said leftist not Marxist. Secondly I'm not here to discuss Marxism and thirdly, your whole comment implied that the right would never engage in such things which is why I'm calling bullshit.
Maybe when there is the assassination of a "leader of capitalism" discussing the fact that there is an ideology with millions of adherent in the USA which is in favor of those events is on topic?
You can discuss what you view as left wing tactics and this murder without dragging all of us into a debate over your highly idiosyncratic debate about the definition of Marxism.
I am skeptical of this chart. Everything I have found suggests that it is very hard to know what percentage of claims are denied. And for competitive reasons, it seems unlikely to me that United Healthcare denies claims at nearly five times the rate of Kaiser Permanente. Whatever the true percentages are, I would expect the range between the lowest and the highest to be much, much tighter.
this looks like a personal beef and not a left wing propaganda of the deed but who knows
this looks like a personal beef and not a left wing propaganda of the deed but who knows
My money is on the wife
I am skeptical of this chart. Everything I have found suggests that it is very hard to know what percentage of claims are denied. And for competitive reasons, it seems unlikely to me that United Healthcare denies claims at nearly five times the rate of Kaiser Permanente. Whatever the true percentages are, I would expect the range between the lowest and the highest to be much, much tighter.
I agree that the chart probably is bs but it would not surprise me if United Healthcare has a denial rate that is twice average. Also, Kaiser is an HMO so I would expect their denials of claims to be very small but they delay the more expensive procedures or procedures that they outsource.
I feel like some of the analyses in the thread are not properly factoring in that CEOs of US healthcare companies are prolific killers of people in that they cause preventable deaths by denying claims and insurance for possible care. They exploit people at the most vulnerable periods of their lives, and even their deaths.
For some reason we don’t call those deaths “murder”.
They use algorithms to decide how much the lives of you and your loved ones are worth, and pay their C-suites tens of millions of dollars every year to do it. Insurance charged my mom, who is on a fixed income, 1000 dollars for an ambulance transfer when she was having a pulmonary embolism bc “she could have driven herself.” I can’t understand how anyone doesn’t hate them.
I feel like some of the analyses in the thread are not properly factoring in that CEOs of US healthcare companies are prolific killers of people in that they cause preventable deaths by denying claims and insurance for possible care. They exploit people at the most vulnerable periods of their lives, and even their deaths.
For some reason we don’t call those deaths “murder”.
Do you think all employees at UHC, Aetna, etc., involved in policies and decisions around coverage should be prosecuted for murder? I imagine that would be thousands of people.
I’d settle for prosecuting board members and c-suites
Do you think all employees at UHC, Aetna, etc., involved in policies and decisions around coverage should be prosecuted for murder? I imagine that would be thousands of people.
I wonder if people claiming insurance denials are too high realize that healthcare would cost even more (and quality would be far worse) if denials were lower.
And murder is not the only crime they are committing against the American people either
