UnitedHealth CEO Assassinated
The murder of UnitedHealthcare's CEO is a strange story. On the one hand, the killer obviously was taking steps to avoid getting caught. He was wearing a hoodie. He used a silencer. He clearly had an escape plan.
On the other hand, he was wearing a distinctive backpack. He may have left a food wrapper and a water bottle at the scene. And there was writing on each of the three shell casings (the words "deny," "defend," and "depose").
I consider it a fact that he was the current leader of an extraordinarily evil corporation that profits off the suffering of millions of vulnerable human beings.
Two things can be true at once: That killing (except in self defense) is always wrong, and that I am not sad when bad people die.
I never suggested that you or anyone else should feel sad. I'm not sad. I merely suggested that the conversation had crossed a line. More generally, your starting assumption seems to be that employees of health care companies are irredeemable criminals. (Maybe you think that the lower level employees are simply immoral rather than criminals.) My view is a little more nuanced.
In case you are wondering, this is no more personal for me than the assassination attempt of Trump was. I don't work for a health insurer. I don't have any family or close friends who work for a health insurer. I don't have any particular financial interest in a health insurer.
Secondly, the other insurer made that implication, not me, when they altered their policy within hours of the shooting. And I retracted what I could not verify and wrongly assumed from a CNN article.
Not really. You concluded that the shooter forced the other insurer to change its behavior. You were the one drawing the inference.
Im not sure how I crossed the line exactly. I don’t think I’ve said anything untrue, especially as it regards to all the human suffering for which he is responsible.
I’m not pro-murder like I’ve been accused itt. I don’t think anyone has the right to decide who is good or bad and play god.
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That’s the algorithm’s job
The best solution if it could be pulled off, would be to FAKE the murder or torture of these evil people and not worry at all about revenge. In this CEOs case, kidnap him, put him and his family in a luxury hotel in Panama for the rest of his life and show fake photos of how his toes were cut off one by one without anesthesia before his body was dumped into a river. That would work with Anthem executives just as well.
Paging LB...
I think it's pretty wild pretty much all comments across all platforms are either not sad one bit of openly applauding his death. Not a white knight to be found.
this. was crazy how everyone was cheering and comparing it to Hitler, i do feel there may be a bit of a difference between this CEO and hitler but maybe thats just me
regardless I hate how dogshit these companies can be but also as CEO i assume he answers to a board most times too so im not sure what type of message it will be, dude seemed to be a pebble on the whole insurance ocean imo, his pay is like 8m comapred to all the heavy hitters in his field making 20+ mil.
sucks innocent lives get burdned by insurance companies at such dogshit inconvenencies to those that pay for insrance but yet get screwed and its shitty that THIS is when changes maybe coem to fruition after someone getting clipped like this, shouldnt have had to come this far
i think insurance companies in general need looked at in the future hopeflly sooner than later
also we dont know motive really but i assume its like the Idaho situation where police enforcement prolly have some leads but dont want to air it out to the public yet, seems to be the + EV play these dys by officials.
luciom, you wouldn't change your healthcare system for ours in a million years, i find it wild you're against progress just because it can own the libs
If him and his family could afford it he for sure would. Any of his friends that couldn't afford the premiums with our system, well they're just not alpha enough to survive society. **** em
this. was crazy how everyone was cheering and comparing it to Hitler, i do feel there may be a bit of a difference between this CEO and hitler but maybe thats just me
regardless I hate how dogshit these companies can be but also as CEO i assume he answers to a board most times too so im not sure what type of message it will be, dude seemed to be a pebble on the whole insurance ocean imo, his pay is like 8m comapred to all the heavy hitters in his field making 20+ mil.
I didn’t read this thread except this page so sorry if it’s been said before but I don’t get all the fuss about this story and some kind of moral implication that seem to stem from this .
I said it before and say it again .
The private sector are there to make money period.
Not be fair or do charity work .
And this is the kind of situation , aiming at baham luciom etc, that you need some government participation or regulations to put some orders IF you really want some adequate services in certain strategic sectors like health care.
The private sector will never care more for your well being if they can’t make money out of it.
Only government can because they can’t bankrupt .
luciom, you wouldn't change your healthcare system for ours in a million years, i find it wild you're against progress just because it can own the libs
Lol? My dad in the USA has 500-1000x better healthcare than my mother in Italy.
it's not even comparable, what my dad gets access to you need to be a political party leader here to get.
And me and my children we basically never go with the public healthcare system.
Everything out of pocket private, I can't wait 4 months for an exam
If him and his family could afford it he for sure would. Any of his friends that couldn't afford the premiums with our system, well they're just not alpha enough to survive society. **** em
When you pay 10k less on taxes on a salary that is 1.6-2x the Italian one how the ****ing **** can't you afford the premia even if you are very normie.
And medicaid as bad as it looks like to you guys is better than the Italian public healthcare system alredy
This is true, but I think the greater issue is we have a system that is deliberately designed to cost 2x as much as any other system. It is also designed to kill and bankrupt people who don't pay the exorbitant fees. So it's a big extortion racket.
Of course, yeah, they can make extra money by killing or torturing even some people who do pay.
Nobody, outside of the ignorant and people who are very far into particular political doctrines actually believes it is a good system. No other country use
very well stated
Color me surprised that you are openly in favor of violence against groups of people you don't like. I was personally shocked at the reactions to this murder on Reddit, but I'm flabbergasted that a supposedly older and more mature user base on this site is also celebrating a vigilante killing an innocent person because he has an unpopular job. When did this become a hate site???
We can only hope that the cheering on of an apparent act of terrorism is not going to lead to copycats, such as Columbi
Is there any evidence that health care companies spend more on executive security than comparable non-health care companies?
Also, the idea that corporate executives routinely are followed around by armed security when they leave the office is false.
maybe before, but i assure you, any c level exec in a gray area industry right now has a freshly hired security team
they are already working on taking down all online info of themselves like wikipages
maybe before, but i assure you, any c level exec in a gray area industry right now has a freshly hired security team
they are already working on taking down all online info of themselves like wikipages
Dunno right now but I checked when articles were written about Zuckerberg spending millions/year of meta money on security, and the heads of JP Morgan and the like all spent less than 500k
Why am I not remotely surprised Luciom is on the side of the murdered father and husband who screwed over people for profit
luciom, you wouldn't change your healthcare system for ours in a million years, i find it wild you're against progress just because it can own the libs
I wouldn't be so sure about this. I say this not because the U.S. healthcare system is great, but rather because most people in most countries hate their healthcare system and tend to imagine that healthcare is much better in other countries.
I’m not gonna sit here and tell you that health care executives deserve to be murdered in cold blood, but I am going to sit here and tell you:
1. I have no problem laughing that this piece of **** is dead
2. I have no problem with telling his widow and his children that this man was a piece of **** who caused human suffering on a scale they can’t comprehend for profit and no other reason and I will laugh in their face that he’s dead
also we dont know motive really but i assume its like the Idaho situation where police enforcement prolly have some leads but dont want to air it out to the public yet, seems to be the + EV play these dys by officials.
It has been the +EV law enforcement strategy in the majority of cases for your entire lifetime. When you release certain types of information to the media in high profile cases, you are inviting yourself to get buried in an avalanche of tips from crackpots who always knew that their brother-in-law was shady.
