UnitedHealth CEO Assassinated

Again. Don’t care

You won’t make me care

Wait, lemme bold this for you for emphasis

You are not capable of making me feel ashamed for what I said

the wife is almost certainly not innocent

I can't imagine the mental contortions you have to go through to imagine that someone is trying to bully you into not being mad about the U.S. healthcare system. What people are objecting to is the apparent bloodlust and glee, which seems like a problem regardless of whether this guy was a good person or not.

But I get it. Your approach is well-represented in this country. Every time someone gets the electic chair, there are people outside the prison cheering and holding up signs that say "Let him fry." That seems pretty ****ing weird to me too, no matter how awful the person being executed is.

These two lines in tandem lead me to believe you are fortunate enough to have never lost anyone close to you or have had anyone close to you in a struggle of massive proportions related to insurance and that you cannot relate to the anger someone would feel to which all you can do is scream into an abyss cuz nothing can or will ever be done

Happy for you. Don’t wish it on you

You don't know that yet. I mean his kids and if it turns out his wife is somehow involved, I doubt she'd be that bothered about some embittered rando laughing in her face over a murder she was involved in anyway.

I have been on 2+2 since 2004. What do you think the odds are that I have never lost anyone close to me? For that matter, I lost people close to me long before I had a 2+2 account.

Perhaps my sentence structure was not clear

Lost anyone because of insurance bullshit

Not trying to. Just calling you on your despicable comment re his kids. Using your wife as an excuse doesn't cut it, sorry.

I honestly don't know. You would have to ask my mother. She was the person dealing with the insurer. I was a teenager at the time.

But carry on.

I had a close friend die recently, and the life insurer gave his wife the runaround for a couple of days before agreeing to pay the claim. It was insanely stressful for her.

I mean, not to be more of a dick than you probably already assume me to be, but if ‘idk I was a teenager at the time’ and ‘and she got the runaround for a couple of days’ is you trying to be relatable to the symptoms of rage to which you think bloodlust is weird well….you’ve failed bigly, my man

Who said that I was trying to relate to your rage? I said what I said. I don't know what troubles my mother may or may not have had with our health insurer when my dad was slowly dying from an illness. She didn't involve me in those discussions because I was a teenager. But it really doesn't matter. He wasn't an important person in the grand scheme of things. He didn't work for a health insurer. We weren't wealthy. So you didn't miss out on an opportunity to laugh in my face.

As for the other thing, I was just relaying a personal anecdote about a recent bad experience that a friend had with an insurer.

Who’s laughing in your face? I’m certainly not

I didn't say you were.

If my dad had been a health care executive, I assume you would have been laughing (per your previous post). But he was wasn't. So you aren't. I get it.

My point is that it is traumatic to lose a parent as a kid. That's true almost no matter who the parent is and who the kid is. Saying that you would take pleasure in making it more traumatic for the kid strikes me as more than a little off. I don't know what else to say.

You’re absolutely missing the point

I don’t need to take pleasure in a child losing their father. But if I need to tell the child I take pleasure in their father’s demise in order to justify my pleasure in his demise (which seems to be the implication based on the litany of ‘this man was a father’ articles that have been shitposted to try to guilt me into empathy), in this case, I 1000% will with absolutely no regret or remorse in my soul

I haven't read much in this thread so I might be repeating something already said.

I seriously doubt the ceo was some sort of dastardly figurehead. I don't really know much about him but my sense is he's not much different from any corporate ceo. He certainly doesn't deserve to be gunned down.

The political issue imo is the healthcare industry. It is a for profit business that doesn't care a whit about anyone's health. The ceo is there to ensure that a profit is made for the shareholders of the company. Nothing more.

Not only that, but the amount of money that the insurance companies siphon off is staggering. This money should be funneled into actual healthcare, not an insurance company. Period.

My wife works in healthcare and I assure you that the good of the patient ALWAYS comes second to the bottom line.

This is an example of why capitalism isn't always the best answer to solve problem.

The same people who would call me a despicable person for my views on Sandy Hook (thinking that no one died) and are the exact same people dancing on graves now. Best to just ignore them.

If you trade in literal blood money and make your millions upon millions in ensuring suffering by other human beings for profit you’ve lost your right to have an ounce of pity in your name in the event of your demise

The fact that this needs to be explained is why the systemic problems that exist will never be fixed

No i mean she is a party to the husband's crimes against the public.

Translation--I need to laugh in the face of the kid in order to amplify my pleasure over the parent's death.

This gets better and better.

It's too hard to not dance on a grave really.

Not saying you need to be sad and weep-- lots of people to weep for out there so you're allowed to pick and choose-- you just don't have to dance.

And it's for your own good really. Craig will tell you about it.

The wife is probably partly culpable for his crimes against the population.

You’re exhausting and intentionally misrepresenting everything I’m saying

See you in the next thread I guess, I’ve addressed enough of your sanctimonious bullshit in good faith here