The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

The "LOLCANADA" thread...again

So what's new?

I've noticed the Liberals are now ahead in all major polls and Trudeau hasn't even started to campaign yet...i'd be shocked if they lost the election now.

Just shows just how incompetent Conservatives are.

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11 July 2019 at 07:31 PM
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Well this is a surprise poll, first time in a while I've seen Trudeau tied with Poilievre on...well...any metric basically. Probably just a blip, but an interesting one in this particular political moment:


by Montrealcorp k

And how much you expect to get in return ?
Or what items u expect to pay less then today ?

It ranges between a low of $1000 and a high of $1500 currently as the carbon tax increases so will the effect

by uke_master k

Well your guess is, unsurprisingly, wrong. The current is currently 65% of people who get it. It is set to grow to 80% by 2030 as the price grows.

In some ways I'm supportive of the BC approach because I think our tax system SHOULD be more progressive and so you are killing two birds with one stone. However, the NDP has increasingly dipped into the carbon tax as a source of government funding (where Trudeau never once did this which is very admirable) and I think the federal approach does a bett

Well I am not that far off and it sure isn't 90% like what they claim for the rest of Canada. Why a dark winter for Canada Justin the climate warrior is there

by uke_master k

Well this is a surprise poll, first time in a while I've seen Trudeau tied with Poilievre on...well...any metric basically. Probably just a blip, but an interesting one in this particular political moment:

Yes and a leger poll shows that only 39% have any confidence in the job Justin is doing . Though Justin still trails Pierre by 20 points .


It's a dark winter because the next leader of the US and the presumptive next leader of Canada are both pledging to rip out, root and stem, any progress towards climate change from their predecessors and replace it with nothing. And particularly for the US, if they do nothing through 2030s it dramatically drops the chances of other countries acting as well.

The history books will not be kind to this political moment. But you are salivating.


by uke_master k

It's a dark winter because the next leader of the US and the presumptive next leader of Canada are both pledging to rip out, root and stem, any progress towards climate change from their predecessors and replace it with nothing. And particularly for the US, if they do nothing through 2030s it dramatically drops the chances of other countries acting as well.

The history books will not be kind to this political moment. But you are salivating.

It amazes me that you think we have a moral responsibility to act on Climate Change which I agree on is real and the impacts severe . I am sure you would say we must do it for our children and grandchildren . Yet when it comes to deficits who cares about our kids and their kids

The reality is anything Justin is doing will have zero effect on the overall effects of climate change while his never ending deficits will

As for the postal strike US Postal Service is not accepting any mail to Canada and CDN courier companies are turning down stuff as well as they are overwhelmed. & days for a port strike and the Liberals order them back but heck 24 days of a postal strike with no end in site nothing


by lozen k

It amazes me that you think we have a moral responsibility to act on Climate Change which I agree on is real and the impacts severe .

What on earth is amazing about this? Like yes I think the world should try and mitigate the worse effects of global crises with "severe impacts". You can try and work on other issues like deficits (usually less of a problem than some suggest) if you want at the same time. This is partly why it is GREAT that Trudeau's approach to the carbon tax is deficit neutral while it aims to reduce our carbon impact.


by uke_master k

What on earth is amazing about this? Like yes I think the world should try and mitigate the worse effects of global crises with "severe impacts". You can try and work on other issues like deficits (usually less of a problem than some suggest) if you want at the same time. This is partly why it is GREAT that Trudeau's approach to the carbon tax is deficit neutral while it aims to reduce our carbon impact.

Please tell me which of my statements is false

Yes Climate change will have adverse effects on Canada
Nothing Canada does will lower those effects
Running non stop deficits will have a negative impact on Canada and Canada has control over that


by lozen k

Please tell me which of my statements is false

Yes Climate change will have adverse effects on Canada
Nothing Canada does will lower those effects
Running non stop deficits will have a negative impact on Canada and Canada has control over that

climate change overall is immensely positive for Canada, like it's a huge boon to quality of life of Canadians, as it's obvious for a country that was dramatically colder than the human optimum to begin with, warming is an unmitigated blessing.

Of significant magnitude, like you should emit CO2 on purpose as much as possible and count that as a significant positive externality for your country


by Luciom k

climate change overall is immensely positive for Canada, like it's a huge boon to quality of life of Canadians, as it's obvious for a country that was dramatically colder than the human optimum to begin with, warming is an unmitigated blessing.

Of significant magnitude, like you should emit CO2 on purpose as much as possible and count that as a significant positive externality for your country

In some ways it may help but there are many ways it can hurt. Drier summers mean more Forest Fires, No snow in December may mean no White Christmases , Up north the permafrost thawing will effect infrastructure effects on highways and foundations


by lozen k

In some ways it may help but there are many ways it can hurt. Drier summers mean more Forest Fires, No snow in December may mean no White Christmases , Up north the permafrost thawing will effect infrastructure effects on highways and foundations

count the billions in savings from lower heating costs in winter and the increased agricultural yield and telle how on earth negatives can even come close to that


by uke_master k

What on earth is amazing about this? Like yes I think the world should try and mitigate the worse effects of global crises with "severe impacts". You can try and work on other issues like deficits (usually less of a problem than some suggest) if you want at the same time. This is partly why it is GREAT that Trudeau's approach to the carbon tax is deficit neutral while it aims to reduce our carbon impact.

China adds a whole Canada's worth of carbon pollution every year on top of how much it is polluting right now.

Makes no sense to tax Canadians and punish them, but that is the best a drama teacher can come up with. So I don't blame him for his lack of foresight.

Trudeau should abolish the tax immediately, and come up with an actionable plan to build renewable energy like nuclear. Also not just talk about it, but get it implemented.


by lozen k

Please tell me which of my statements is false

Yes Climate change will have adverse effects on Canada
Nothing Canada does will lower those effects
Running non stop deficits will have a negative impact on Canada and Canada has control over that

I don't trust climate nazis any more.

Bill Gates talks about climate this, climate that and then flies around the world on his private plane. Give me a break.

Go build nuclear power plants with your billions.


by Tien k

I don't trust climate nazis any more.

Bill Gates talks about climate this, climate that and then flies around the world on his private plane. Give me a break.

Go build nuclear power plants with your billions.

gates does invest a lot in nuclear plants and has shares of mini reactor builders and microsoft is building mini reactors to supply server farms

https://www.foronuclear.org/en/updates/n...

bill gates also offsets personal CO2 emissions


He can fly first class and buy a carbon credits at the same time.


by lozen k

It ranges between a low of $1000 and a high of $1500 currently as the carbon tax increases so will the effect

Well I am not that far off and it sure isn't 90% like what they claim for the rest of Canada. Why a dark winter for Canada Justin the climate warrior is there

Yes and a leger poll shows that only 39% have any confidence in the job Justin is doing . Though Justin still trails Pierre by 20 points .

Well all that complain for a 20$ a week …..
Which doesn’t account for the money back with the rebate .
Which you shouldn’t suffer at all since you already have A system in bc by its own u already paying for years now .


by lozen k

Please tell me which of my statements is false

Yes Climate change will have adverse effects on Canada
Nothing Canada does will lower those effects
Running non stop deficits will have a negative impact on Canada and Canada has control over that

Deficit been made by conservative too and every government in the world makes deficits.
u must know that we actually live in a debt based system ?
It ain’t the carbon tax that will make a big impact on the deficit .

How great it would be to be able to be much less consumer of oil and carbon emitter which would make us even bigger importer of oil and make more money from it wouldn’t it ?


by Tien k

China adds a whole Canada's worth of carbon pollution every year on top of how much it is polluting right now.

Makes no sense to tax Canadians and punish them, but that is the best a drama teacher can come up with. So I don't blame him for his lack of foresight.

Trudeau should abolish the tax immediately, and come up with an actionable plan to build renewable energy like nuclear. Also not just talk about it, but get it implemented.

China emits more just because there is more Chinese people .
Per capita they are low compare to Canadian.
What u want them to do ?
Stop using stove to cook ?

https://www.enerdata.net/estore/energy-m....

At 7.4 toe, Canada's per capita energy consumption is among the highest in the world and almost triple the average EU level (2023). Electricity consumption per capita is around 13.9 MWh.


by lozen k

In some ways it may help but there are many ways it can hurt. Drier summers mean more Forest Fires, No snow in December may mean no White Christmases , Up north the permafrost thawing will effect infrastructure effects on highways and foundations

Luciom doesn’t get how Canada economy is working here and how already we have massive cost due to environment issue ….
The guy just think because we gain 2-3 degrees to go out in the swimming people it’s a plus benefit for everything else …


Every single Canadian can literally stop producing carbon until their last breath and it still won't do **** for climate change.

That's the point. We are completely insignificant globally (which is what matters).

The only thing that would move the needle is the drama teacher throwing everything into building more nuclear reactors at scale.


by Tien k

I don't trust climate nazis any more.

It's amazing the deranged ranting and raving that suggesting maybe we try and contribute a bit to the global emission by reducing our own high per-capita emissions brings out.

by Tien k

Makes no sense to tax Canadians and punish them, but that is the best a drama teacher can come up with.

by Tien k

The only thing that would move the needle is the drama teacher throwing everything into building more nuclear reactors at scale.

I remember in 2014 when "drama teacher" was in vogue among a certain type of right wing voter. But a couple of you are just absolutely dedicated to the line a decade in huh.

As point of fact, about 7.7% of Canada's greenhouse emissions come from electricity production. I'm a big nuclear supporter too, but even if you transition the last few coal plants and all the remaining natural gas electricity plants to nuclear that probably STILL keeps us at the top of the per-capita emitters lists.


I looked up what Trudeau did before running for politics and it was literally jack ****.

Trudeau was born in Ottawa, Ontario, and attended Collège Jean-de-Brébeuf. He graduated from McGill University in 1994 with a Bachelor of Arts degree in literature, then in 1998 acquired a Bachelor of Education degree from the University of British Columbia. After graduating, he taught at the secondary school level in Vancouver, before relocating back to Montreal in 2002 to further his studies.

From 2002 to 2004, he studied engineering at the École Polytechnique de Montréal, affiliated with Université de Montréal, but did not graduate.[67] He started a master's degree in environmental geography at McGill but withdrew from the program to seek public office.[68]

Degree in literature? Bachelor in education? Engineering drop out? Starting a Master's degree in geography at 34?

He's literally a total fail son churning through academia (his last name gets him into any Canadian university) and then settled into politics because the only thing he could leverage was his father's last name.


by Montrealcorp k

Deficit been made by conservative too and every government in the world makes deficits.
u must know that we actually live in a debt based system ?
It ain’t the carbon tax that will make a big impact on the deficit .

How great it would be to be able to be much less consumer of oil and carbon emitter which would make us even bigger importer of oil and make more money from it wouldn’t it ?

We’re did I say the carbon tax has anything to do with deficits ?
The carbon tax will not make a dent in climate change

Yes every government has run deficits yet only one government has run a deficit more than all the other past governments put together . You have to oh the interest and those payments get bigger and bigger


by lozen k

We’re did I say the carbon tax has anything to do with deficits ?
The carbon tax will not make a dent in climate change

Yes every government has run deficits yet only one government has run a deficit more than all the other past governments put together . You have to oh the interest and those payments get bigger and bigger

Deficit means nothing on nominal terms because the Canadian dollar loses value overtime .
And an economy grows too.
Doesn’t really matter I borrow 300k today (something that would be insanely high 40 years ago with a salary of 30k per year ) to buy a house when I’m making today 100k per year .

As long you can’t understand those simple facts you will always “dramatize” the management of the “dramatic teacher” .

Fwiw you would be very surprised who made bigger deficit relatively to its economy , which is what really matters ….
Its a conservative !
And he didn’t had a major crisis like COVID or 2008 GFC..


by Tien k

I looked up what Trudeau did before running for politics and it was literally jack ****.

Degree in literature? Bachelor in education? Engineering drop out? Starting a Master's degree in geography at 34?

He's literally a total fail son churning through academia (his last name gets him into any Canadian university) and then settled into politics because the only thing he could leverage was his father's last name.

lol imagine being this dude a solid decade in still going on and on and on about the drama teacher while raging incoherently about climate nazis. Not that you seem fazed by the guy who went from his university Conservative Party club to lifelong parliamentarian and his lack of prior experience. Or maybe neither matters at this point and you should focus on the decade of accomplishments or lack there of.


by Montrealcorp k

China emits more just because there is more Chinese people .
Per capita they are low compare to Canadian.
What u want them to do ?
Stop using stove to cook ?

https://www.enerdata.net/estore/energy-m....

ya and they are quickly catching up and wont stop because they have seen us abuse it for a century . in their mind its their turn and they are probably right. We take energy as a luxury here but they actually need cheap energy . and cheap energy is dirty energy.

Tien god a canadian who wants nuclear energy. get this guy in office


by uke_master k

It's amazing the deranged ranting and raving that suggesting maybe we try and contribute a bit to the global emission by reducing our own high per-capita emissions brings out.

I remember in 2014 when "drama teacher" was in vogue among a certain type of right wing voter. But a couple of you are just absolutely dedicated to the line a decade in huh.

As point of fact, about 7.7% of Canada's greenhouse emissions come from electricity production. I'm a big nuclear supporter too, but even if you transit

"electricity production" not energy production. nuclear does more then "electricity" Theres no way that 7.7% stat is true if its all energy

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