In other news
In the current news climate we see that some figures and events tend to dominate the front-pages heavily. Still, there are important, interesting or just plain weird things happening out there and a group of people can find these better than one.
I thought I would test with a thread for linking general news articles about "other news" and discussion. Perhaps it goes into the abyss that is page 2 and beyond, but it is worth a try.
Some guidelines:
- Try to find the "clean link", so that links to the news site directly and not a social media site. Avoid "amp-links" (google).
- Write some cliff notes on what it is about, especially if it is a video.
- It's not an excuse to make outlandish claims via proxy or link extremist content.
- If it's an editorial or opinion piece, it is polite to mark it as such.
- Note the language if it is not in English.
- There is no demand that such things be posted here, if you think a piece merits its own thread, then make one.
I think someone's feeding that congressman disinformation. I don't think Iran has the type of technology I saw in real time, able to maneuver like it did.
If there is a mothership out there (which makes sense since Toms River/Bricktown have a lot of sightings of "drones" coming from the ocean) I don't think it's Iran, but that's just me.
Or maybe they reversed engineered a UFO they shot down in the 70s...think about it!
Or maybe they reversed engineered a UFO they shot down in the 70s...think about it!
maybe, but they're not at all that easy to reverse engineer. We at least had all of the former German rocket scientists through project paperclip like Wernher von Braun... who does Iran have? lol
maybe, but they're not at all that easy to reverse engineer. We at least had all of the former German rocket scientists through project paperclip like Wernher von Braun... who does Iran have? lol
Okay. Maybe- and I'm just speculating here- one of the aliens from the shot down UFO survived and maybe he was also an alien scientist. Speculating further, if the surviving alien from the shot down ufo was smart enough to be a scientist, then maybe he was smart enough to learn Farsi. Or maybe the Iranians learned whatever language they speak in Zeta Reticuli or wherever the aliens came from. And maybe then the alien scientist helped the Iranians reverse engineer the UFO they just shot down in exchange for letting him use it to go home and maybe the Iranians said the Farsi equivalent of "Sure, no problem, trust me bro" and then promptly killed him after he did their bidding due to the IRI not being the most trustworthy of peeps.
Now I realise there's a lot of maybes in my supposition but I still think it's a viable theory.
Or it could be bullshit and the congressman is talking bollocks, you never can tell about these things. But my theory sounds sexier.
Or it could be bullshit and the congressman is talking bollocks, you never can tell about these things. But my theory sounds sexier.
There could def be a "mother ship" out there, but perhaps they're blaming it on Iran instead of calling it "alien" which would open up a whole new can of worms.
so the senator has a bad source
not sure why he would accuse iran unless he trusted his source
pentagon denies it is from any foreign entity but refuses to give insight into where they are coming from
Last night people were in mass hysteria thinking a drone had crashed. Someone on a ring app said it sounded like one crashed and people were going crazy. The police got hundreds of calls asking what they should do but it turned out to be a car accident lol. People are scared ****.
NEW JERSEY "DRONE" UPDATE:
Assemblywoman Dawn Frantasia's statement, as well as the Warren county Police Chiefs association' (obv everyone is dumbfounded after meeting with this feds today and rightfully so. Imagine if this happened in your neighborhood. We're seeing craft fly and hover over our heads that look like they're right out of Star Wars. Is this The United States anymore?):
"I just left the New Jersey State Police HQ following the briefing of New Jersey State Legislators relating to the unexplained drone sightings in New Jersey.
Might I add - Governor Phil Murphy
was not present, but a large representation from both sides of the aisle were present. My notes are organized following my take below on the situation.
1. We know nothing. PERIOD. To state that there is no known or credible threat is incredibly misleading, and I informed all officials of that sentiment.
2. State authorities, including the NJSP, are shackled with what they are able to do. Any interception or takedown of any UAS is under the strict jurisdiction of the federal government.
3. At this point, I believe military intervention is the only path forward. There will be no answers in the absence of proactivity.
4. The US Coast Guard seems to be the most likely to intervene based upon our briefing, but even that component was shrouded in mystery.
Here is my summary of the briefing :
Overview of the Issue:
First Sightings: Reported on 11/18, with sightings occurring every night since then, from dusk until 11 PM (6–7 hours).
Frequency: Reports range from 4 to 180 sightings per night.
Description:
Large drones (up to 6 ft in diameter).
Operate in a coordinated manner.
Lights are turned off, making them difficult to detect.
Appear to avoid detection by traditional methods (e.g., helicopters, radio frequencies).
Not identified as hobbyist drones or related to DHS.
Investigation and Response
1. Agencies Involved:
FBI: Designated as the lead agency for investigations.
New Jersey State Police (NJSP): Coordinates with the FBI on follow-ups.
Office of Homeland Security and Preparedness (OHSP): Provides training and situational awareness.
U.S. Coast Guard: Involved in determining steps under their jurisdiction (details not disclosed).
2. Federal Involvement:
FAA: Made night flights legal in 2023, but require operators to maintain line of sight, which is not being observed in these cases.
Lack of Federal Legislation: Existing bills on drone regulation remain stalled in Congress.
3. Detection Challenges:
NJSP deployed helicopters over Raritan Bay but could not detect drones, even with infrared cameras.
Current radio frequencies do not pick up drone signals.
Col. Callahan expressed concerns about potential danger, leading to a halt in helicopter deployments.
4. Training and Preparedness:
In-person Counter-Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS) Training starts in Monmouth County in January and will expand statewide.
A UAS Dashboard is being developed for tracking and managing drone sightings.
Key Concerns
Unknown Origins: Authorities do not know where these drones take off or land.
Capabilities: Drones maintain flight for extended periods (6–7 hours) and over distances of 15 miles, raising questions about their technology and intent.
Airspace Regulation:
Most sightings are in unrestricted airspace, but their behavior is unusual and potentially nefarious.
Unlike manned aircraft, these drones appear to operate without lights and evade detection.
Public Safety:
Possible threats remain unconfirmed, but the lack of detection capability is a significant concern.
See Something, Say Something campaigns encourage the public to report sightings to local law enforcement and the FBI.
Statements from Officials:
Laurie Doran (Director of OHSP):
There is no known or credible threat at this time. (I DISAGREE)
Urges continued reporting to law enforcement.
Colonel Pat Callahan (NJSP):
Suspended helicopter flights to investigate drones over safety concerns.
Emphasized the rapid pace of technological development in drones.
Brent Cotton (DHS Counterterrorism): Highlighted challenges in threat prevention and the need for improved technology and protocols.
Next Steps
1. Enhanced Surveillance: Use of infrared cameras and additional Coast Guard resources.
To clarify, there is new infrared technology being developed. This is why in the first part of the notes it states that current infrared technology is not effective in detecting these drones, but the hope is to employ new technology as it is rapidly emerging at present.
2. Legislation and Policy: Advocate for advancing federal drone legislation stalled in Congress.
3. Public Engagement: Encourage reporting via the See Something, Say Something initiative."
More good news following Penny Not Guilty verdict: he is strongly evaluating suing Bragg for malicious prosecution.
We can all hope he goes forward with that and the rare case of a prosecutor being punished by the law because of his constant abuses of power happens this time. Bragg truly deserves to see his life destroyed, by the same legal system he raped so much in his career.
luc, he maintained the chokehold at least 3 minutes after the man passed out
i agree he should be exonerated, but there's no world where you can casually dismiss that he probably did take it as an opportunity for free murder
luc, he maintained the chokehold at least 3 minutes after the man passed out
i agree he should be exonerated, but there's no world where you can casually dismiss that he probably did take it as an opportunity for free murder
there is puported collusion with the medical examiner, and the shenanigans with the 2 charges, dropping one while the jury was hanged (thus admitting it was never proper to prosecute him for that) and more.
It's uphill anyway as malicious prosecution is very rarely assessed as such, but Bragg deserves that even if he ends up saving his ass, he deserves the stress and fatigue of going through that , to understand what he does to people in his "career".
@mets this is how they intend to do it
https://x.com/DailyCaller/status/1866902...
“Our position is that the 14th Amendment gives citizenship at birth only to those born in the United States to parents who were residing here with the permission of the United States,” Christopher Hajec, of
@IRLILaw
, said to the Daily Caller News Foundation.
Where I practice, the prosecution can amend the charges for lesser included offenses after the close of evidence but before jury deliberations begin. I think it is pretty standard.
Where I practice, the prosecution can amend the charges for lesser included offenses after the close of evidence but before jury deliberations begin. I think it is pretty standard.
Instead they dropped charges at the 4th day of deliberation when the jury said for the second time it was hung on that count
New York
CNN
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A judge granted a motion from Manhattan prosecutors to dismiss the more serious charge of second-degree manslaughter against Daniel Penny on Friday in his trial over the chokehold death of Jordan Neely on a New York City subway last year.
The ruling clears the way for the jury to consider a remaining lesser charge of criminally negligent homicide. It came after a Manhattan jury said they were deadlocked twice on the manslaughter charge and Penny’s defense attorneys renewed their motion for a mistrial.
Over defense objections, Judge Maxwell Wiley agreed with prosecutors, who argued that dismissing the first count of second-degree manslaughter eliminates the defense’s concern about a compromise verdict.
Yes, it is a little different as they charged all the lesser included offenses too. Despite the claims about how unfair it was by the maga media, I still haven’t seen anything indicating the conduct was prohibited by the rules of criminal procedure.
Yes, it is a little different as they charged all the lesser included offenses too. Despite the claims about how unfair it was by the maga media, I still haven’t seen anything indicating the conduct was prohibited by the rules of criminal procedure.
Not prohibited per se (but it would have been a decent ground for appeal I guess).
But linked with the other purported malfeasance(s) by the prosecution it can matter.
Anyway we don't even know yet if Penny is going to sue or not.
Certainly he would be well funded to do so in the most efficacious way possible if he decides to do it
Not prohibited per se (but it would have been a decent ground for appeal I guess).
But linked with the other purported malfeasance(s) by the prosecution it can matter.
Anyway we don't even know yet if Penny is going to sue or not.
Certainly he would be well funded to do so in the most efficacious way possible if he decides to do it
Good luck suing the judge for allowing the charges to be dropped during deliberations. Or the prosecutor for dropping charges. It’s the judges job to conduct the trial following proper procedures so I don’t understand your “not prohibited per se” comment as the judge certainly has exercisable discretion which any appeal court will recognize. Again, if there is a procedural error, I have not seen a specific rule cited by the maga cancel culture warriors.
I don’t know of any other malfeasance by the prosecutor either.
Good luck suing the judge for allowing the charges to be dropped during deliberations. Or the prosecutor for dropping charges. It’s the judges job to conduct the trial following proper procedures so I don’t understand your “not prohibited per se” comment as the judge certainly has exercisable discretion which any appeal court will recognize. Again, if there is a procedural error, I have not seen a specific rule cited by the maga cancel culture warriors.
I don’t know of any other malfeasance
judge isn't in the picture.
prosecutor is, basically the dropping of charges during deliberation could be enough to claim the prosecution knew he shouldn't have been charged with that, and charging with that was an attempt to increase the chances of conviction for the lesser charge.
ofc that has to be proven but if you manage to subpoena all the office communications about the case something inculpating can come out.
the other malfeasance(s) are wrt purported collusion of the prosecution with the medical examiner.
prosecutor is, basically the dropping of charges during deliberation could be enough to claim the prosecution knew he shouldn't have been charged with that, and charging with that was an attempt to increase the chances of conviction for the lesser charge.
Oh, you sweet summer child. You don't have a clue how the criminal justice system in the US works, do you? Piling on charges is standard operating procedure to induce defendants to take a plea in every single jurisdiction (state and federal). You can't sue for that, it's in the ****ing manual. I guess the practice only starts bothering you when it's being used for something other than to put black people away for 20+ years for a few grams of crack, though.
Not prohibited per se (but it would have been a decent ground for appeal I guess).
But linked with the other purported malfeasance(s) by the prosecution it can matter.
Anyway we don't even know yet if Penny is going to sue or not.
Certainly he would be well funded to do so in the most efficacious way possible if he decides to do it
Maybe he should quit while he's ahead
pentagon denies it is from any foreign entity but refuses to give insight into where they are coming from
So the congressman was talking bollocks after all.
There could def be a "mother ship" out there, but perhaps they're blaming it on Iran instead of calling it "alien" which would open up a whole new can of worms.
They've been described by all witnesses and reports as being drones. Are you saying that extra terrestrial aliens are using drones?
Maybe he should quit while he's ahead
So the congressman was talking bollocks after all.
They've been described by all witnesses and reports as being drones. Are you saying that extra terrestrial aliens are using drones?
The congressman was definitely told that. We don't know from whom
The fact that the pentagon is certain it isn't fromIran or any foreign country but claim at the same time to have no idea where they are coming from is concerning
