UnitedHealth CEO Assassinated

UnitedHealth CEO Assassinated

The murder of UnitedHealthcare's CEO is a strange story. On the one hand, the killer obviously was taking steps to avoid getting caught. He was wearing a hoodie. He used a silencer. He clearly had an escape plan.

On the other hand, he was wearing a distinctive backpack. He may have left a food wrapper and a water bottle at the scene. And there was writing on each of the three shell casings (the words "deny," "defend," and "depose").

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05 December 2024 at 03:09 PM
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by chezlaw k

I dont think it's gets the same level of publicty and public 'interest'

On the other hand it's awkward to focus on the evils of health insurance when someone has been murdered

Your other hand is the more important one. If reading our posts results in three people not murdering three corrupt insurance CEOS but causes fifty of them to be non fatally shot in the legs, we would be doing our good deed for the day.


by Luckbox Inc k

I doubt you're arguing that in some hypothetical apolitical world he would have chosen shooting up a liquor store as his outlet.

Wherever his misplaced anger was focused.


by zers k

Wherever his misplaced anger was focused.

Probably not. Because part of the mental illness is often the desire to make headlines, often for a "good cause".


by David Sklansky k

Probably not. Because part of the mental illness is often the desire to make headlines, often for a "good cause".

If that's the case then you can't really separate the politics from the mental illness-- which is what you seem to be wanting to do.


Is it of any interest that the coats/backpacks are different between the images of shooter on the morning of and Luigi's hostel/starbucks pics?

Also, the eyebrow situation is very perplexing, as he has a complete caterpillar unibrow when caught, yet the CCTV of the shooter is completely bare, and with a pointier northern European nose.

Luigi essentially giving himself up with all sorts of incriminating stuff in McD's makes a lot more sense if he is conspiring with a different guy who did the shooting and got away. Not actually doing it + expensive lawyer + sympathetic jury = probable acquittal, hence why he seems so confident.

Him yelling "you're insulting the intelligence of the American people" also makes a lot more sense. This could be a ploy to make the authorities look real dumb, all while beating the charges and becoming a folk hero (although he will probably have to face conspiracy charges if my narrative is correct).


I'm ready to compare eyebrow pics let's see em



Note the nose, eyebrows, different jackets and backpacks.


I’ll wait for the dna results.


It doesn't look like there are any pockets in the no pockets pic....I agree. And if he also had the black puffy jacket then three jackets would be a lot to be travelling with


Something doesn't add up.


Re the backpacks-- it wouldn't be unusual at all to travel with one 40-45L travel pack and then a day pack-- but they are obviously different in the photos.


Here are the eyebrows 5 days after the murder....


I get that he's Italian, but do they really grow back that fast? Is the CCTV so low-quality that it doesn't catch a single speck of blackness?


Looks like we found one of the extra jackets in the mugshot photo.

Agreed on the eyebrows.


He cant have multiple jackets? What am i missing?

That camera of that quality is going to process shades accordingly as its pixelated. Eyebrow hair may not sure its full extent when your dealing stark contrasts like that.

Theres a reason why bald people always bitch that their hairline looks worse on camera.


How many jackets does a person need to commit murder though?

Sure I've got lots of jackets but I don't pack them all up with me when traveling on assassination trips.


by Pompeous k

Is it of any interest that the coats/backpacks are different between the images of shooter on the morning of and Luigi's hostel/starbucks pics?

Also, the eyebrow situation is very perplexing, as he has a complete caterpillar unibrow when caught, yet the CCTV of the shooter is completely bare, and with a pointier northern European nose.

Luigi essentially giving himself up with all sorts of incriminating stuff in McD's makes a lot more sense if he is conspiring with a different guy who did the sho

PB has a competitor!


by Luckbox Inc k

How many jackets does a person need to commit murder though?

Sure I've got lots of jackets but I don't pack them all up with me when traveling on assassination trips.

Well regardless of the reasonable odds that someone might own and wear more than one jacket, it would also seem rather astute to wear different sets of clothing when traveling on an assassination trip.

My point is cameras like that are surprisingly archaic and they will attempt to overcorrect pigments a lot of the time. The suspect on the left probably doesn't have vitiligo on his hands but the camera is going to do the best it can.


by Luckbox Inc k

How many jackets does a person need to commit murder though?

Sure I've got lots of jackets but I don't pack them all up with me when traveling on assassination trips.

Are you sure those pictures are reported from being the same day?


by formula72 k

He cant have multiple jackets? What am i missing?

That camera of that quality is going to process shades accordingly as its pixelated. Eyebrow hair may not sure its full extent when your dealing stark contrasts like that.

Theres a reason why bald people always bitch that their hairline looks worse on camera.

Why, when you're planning to murder someone and make a getaway, would you use two jackets/backpacks that look so similar, to the point where most people don't even realize that they are different?

To me it makes perfect sense if you have an accomplice and are hoping to attract heat away from him. That way the accomplice has an easier time laying low during the trial/media circus, you get off because you're actually innocent, and, on top of everything, you have plausible deniability for the conspiracy case.


by Pompeous k

Why, when you're planning to murder someone and make a getaway, would you use two jackets/backpacks that look so similar, to the point where most people don't even realize that they are different?

To me it makes perfect sense if you have an accomplice and are hoping to attract heat away from him. That way the accomplice has an easier time laying low during the trial/media circus, you get off because you're actually innocent, and, on top of everything, you have plausible deniability for the consp

Well, we're just going to disagree on that. I obviously dont think the two jackets looks so similar to the point that nobody can tell apart, and if anything, and according to some in this thread, it seemed to have worked out rather well in his case in offering the opinion that there was a second person, so maybe he deserves a little more credit.


by Pompeous k

Why, when you're planning to murder someone and make a getaway, would you use two jackets/backpacks that look so similar, to the point where most people don't even realize that they are different?

To me it makes perfect sense if you have an accomplice and are hoping to attract heat away from him. That way the accomplice has an easier time laying low during the trial/media circus, you get off because you're actually innocent, and, on top of everything, you have plausible deniability for the consp

Would this mystery accomplice have been hired by the wife? I'm looking for any way to eventually be right on this one.... 😃


I think his first move was to trick people into thinking he had two backpacks and three different coats.


by David Sklansky k

Probably not. Because part of the mental illness is often the desire to make headlines, often for a "good cause".

If they're clamoring for attention, they likely have low self-esteem. Feelings of anger often lay at the bottom, and they'll project those emotions onto others. If they don't have a "good cause" they'll find one.


by chezlaw k

On the other hand it's awkward to focus on the evils of health insurance when someone has been murdered

It's wishful thinking, but it would be good if media didn't really cover healthcare for a while. In fact, they should stop giving so much energy to the story. At the very least, they could stop looping a video of the shooting every time they talk about it.


by formula72 k

Well, we're just going to disagree on that. I obviously dont think the two jackets looks so similar to the point that nobody can tell apart, and if anything, and according to some in this thread, it seemed to have worked out rather well in his case in offering the opinion that there was a second person, so maybe he deserves a little more credit.

Did you realize that they were two different backpacks/jackets until I pointed it out? I didn't dive through the entire thread, but has anyone else mentioned this on 2+2?

If not, then I rest my case.

The whole point is to goad law enforcement, with the support of the mainstream media and the general public, into focusing their attention on him, thereby taking heat off the accomplice. At that point, since he is actually innocent of 2nd degree murder, he beats the charges, whereupon (and you might want to throw on your tinfoil hat for this), given that he doesn't have the exact same jacket/backpack as the killer, he has plausible deniability in the subsequent conspiracy case.

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