Soulread with nickels or unnecessary spew?

OTB i make it $10.

without a read that SB is capable of 3betting something besides JJ-AA i just fold the flop to this size bet.

river bluff looks good vs a fish, which is what this guy is. this looks like JJ-KK playing faceup. MAWG fish is probably not checking AA on the turn on a board with a FD.

Looks fine until the river. I don't think a rec who's scared of the A is going to block bet the river, although I could easily see the rec trying to be tricky by checking his Ax on the turn.

The river raise could work, but you need him to fold half the time for it to be +EV for you, whereas he's getting 2:1 to call your raise.

I don't think our "story" is very coherent with this jam. We are really only repping 77, 87s, and J9s that did not bluff turn. It's a pretty narrow range.

It might not matter versus this villain, but then again, I have found that lots of low stakes live fish will get very sticky after betting so small. You often have to "tell them twice" to get a fish to believe your bluff, i.e. bet the turn and bomb the river.

Also agree with Nitty that flop is a somewhat straightforward fold.

The solver seems indifferent to calling/folding on the flop. However, I don't see the point of calling PF only to fold this flop, since Banana didn't have the odds to set-mine.

Setting the solver for a 4x or 5x BTN raise (without a limper) is a pure call with 55 to an SB 3!

Folding pre is probably good. If I am calling, it's mostly because I think SB is going to play the flop face-up. And I would say that his 3/4 pot flop bet is pretty face-up as TT+.

Did you input a typical 1/3 limp-folder's SB 3b range, too?

Huh? I ignored the limper, and I don't understand what a "limp-folder's SB 3b range" means."

Don't think this is a call pre - solver isn't applicable to a live 1/3 game. The problem with this hand is unless we flop a set we're just guessing along the way - as played I think the flop call is mandatory given we're IP, ahead of his non pairs which is a fair amount, and we'll probably see a free river a good portion of the time. On the river I get that you're attacking a capped range - maybe he has some weaker Ax that decided to slow down, maybe JJ-KK. This is just a population play - we need this to work at a high frequency and I'm not sure what villain does here with say JJ. Your line makes no sense other than maybe T7s/77.

I mean the range of the player who 3b. The only read Banana provided is that the he occasionally limp-folds.

My point (if it's not obvious now) is that this player type is likely not going to be 3betting solver ranges sb vs. btn.

Even if SB's range is only ultra-premium (AK/QQ+), we only need to call 45, the pot is currently 75, and V still had 540 back. I don't have a problem calling pf. Folding to the cbet when we whiff flop, ofc. I doubt this V knows they're not supposed to 2/3 cbet on T82r as a SB 3!, so raising them probably won't work. Would've been great with 88 though...

Since we called flop, (and evidently want to blast off into some passive bad player who we don't know can fold the premium they've waited all day for) b/f turn for something like 200 when the ace hits, and see if they'll fold QQ-KK.

I don't believe this V checks turn when an Ace hits and brings a flush draw. So they probably don't have one. (Or they're tricky, and are trying to x-raise turn. But their 1/3 river bet doesn't look like that's the case.)

That's is because solver SB has a big pile of non-pair hands in range that 55 is doing fine against.
On the river we are assuming V has only JJ-KK and never playing AK/AQ this way where the solver probably has AT in range.

Honestly think pre. is mid vs. almost everyone at 1-3, you are mostly playing set mining games for a meh price and will get bluffed off post a bunch. Also you need to get 450 in post when you hit.

Would also fold flop, and I don't think it's close ... we presumably had a read that we'll get paid if we hit, and we hit nothing. Even if we give ourselves 4 outs for the A so we can bluff V off I don't see how it's a good call.

I think turn can be a trap with AA, dito. river ... but if he plays KK/QQ this way (and folds), and doesn't play AK this way, maybe the river shove is good. Also seems more likely we'd want to bet turn for 85 and shove river, but it is what it is.

I stopped reading here. Using laziness or ignorance to sweep aside a solver recommendation makes you sound like a typical TAGfish.

I would limp behind preflop, which would give a better change of seeing a multiway flop. With multiple limpers, I would be more inclined to raise smallish to build the pot and misrepresent my hand. Would call the 3! and fold to large cbet.

i misread pf action

$15 is good, or limp.

Your river skill makes up for the preflop call and flop call.

Very good river play but preflop/flop are losing.

This is a very overfolded line in the B70-X-B30 online. I don’t know live tendencies that well but it’s probably good.

This line works vs both regs and fish. Nice hand.

Good way to think about it thanks

Generally a small pp is a fit or fold hand. You have only 2 outs to improve. This isn't a great flop for your hand, and after he 3!s and cbets big, I would fold.

When he bets big on the flop and checks the turn, it looks like he has a pair of face cards. I can see the point of the river bluff as played, but not sure if it works enough.

Wait...wut?

Grunch: go home Banana, you're drunk.

Just fold to the 3B pre. If you're going to call to set mine, for God's sake fold the flop when we don't make our set.

Any other line is just completely unnecessary.

agree this is pretty bad.
fold to 3 bet
fold on flop

it seems you are putting V on KK or less since he checked turn.

However, you also checked turn, so V can talk themselves into a call since it doesn't look like you have an ace either.

I don't make a 1/3 "fishy" V try and fold here (I also fold OTF).

you probably heard:

"I think you got the Ace, but I gotta keep you honest...... I call!"
followed by him showing KK.

You don't always have to fold when you miss with 55. However, when he 3!s and then close to pots the flop at 1/3, it looks strongly like an overpair, and it isn't a good idea to try to get him to fold that.

You are dealing with low stakes players who are somewhat face up. Sometimes the 3! range is only big pairs anyway. When he pots the flop, you can be pretty sure that is what he has. If you made your stack, you could stack usually stack him.

i dont really mind bluffing the turn

If you bet the turn, you represent an ace, but what ace are you calling the 3! and pot flop? AT or AK? When you bluff the river, it is harder to represent an ace.

To be honest my range for raising and calling the 3! and the big flop bet would probably be QQ, TT, and 88, maybe JJ, T8s, and J9s.

If you fold every time someone 3!s and pots the flop and you don't have at least a high pair or strong draw, you won't lose much. I promise you won't really be exploited. You won't miss some great bluffing opportunities.

It's fine to make plays, but not at some fish who seems to be playing KK face up.

Calling the 3! with 55 is fine and you shouldn't fold every time you miss, but this is a fold on the flop and not close at all.