Gun control
I think that the Gun control thread got lost when the old politics thread got moved.
1 The rest of the world looks at the US policy with slack jawed astonishment.
2. “Guns don’t kill people , people do” is identical to “Nuclear weapons don’t kill people, people do”
3. Using the idea that carrying guns can prevent the government oppressing you seems to ignore the fact that the US government controls the most effective killing machine in history
Better than an AR for home defense for sure, but still not as useful as a standard shotgun. If a intruder in the middle of the night hears "whack whack", they're most likely just going to get the hell out of there and you've just saved yourself a big drywall repair and blood and brains all over your house.
This thing only makes sense if you're worried about a huge gang of Venezuelans taking over your apartment. And if that's the case the optimal play is just to move out of there ASAP. Or it coul
In the unlikely scenario that someone actually wanted to enter my home through busting down locked doors - id be putting them in a different catgegory than someone looking to loot walmart. I wouldnt want a person like that getting spooked at that particular time and possibly coming back for w/e reason he had decided to target me. Id let enter in and my revolver would be enough.
But people dramatically overestimate the likelihood of these break ins happening - by a lot. Its usually not random houses.
I hadn’t considered it in this context but now I’m just even angrier that Thompson will get more lasting sympathy for dying than any of these kids ever will
Luckily Thompson is either in hell if god exists or just some millionaire who’s dead with worms eating his eyeballs is god doesn’t exist
Whether one agrees or not with holding parents liable for their kid shooting up a school with their firearms, this is a piss-poor comparison. Most kids stealing their parents' car are not doing so with the intention of trying to murder a bunch of people.
But yes, parents should keep access to their cars away from non-licensed kids in the home.
Obviously I was making a bad comparaison but still a valid point .
Why shooting with a stolen gun is more dangerous , and parent been hold accountable for it , then driving a steal car if the amount of death would end up the same ?
Ie : i hate those 3-4 fool at my home but u don’t have aces to guns , fack it I’ll take the car and drives them over ?
Assuming this was political and not personal, I am going to predict this shooting, like many before this, was motivated by left wing ideology/mental disorder; and there will be much gaslighting to obfuscate this.
I could absolutely be wrong, so we will just see I guess.
There is an alleged manifesto floating online. I have only seen pieces, but from what I have seen the shooter had some incoherent ideology that mixed misandry and social Darwinism, and called for the extermination of men. So basically just mental illness. I am going to give myself partial credit.
I am predicting it becomes light around 7:00 am tomorrow morning.
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want to add one to the stable someday.
if you want one so bad, shouldn't you have posted the picture of it instead of a TTI JW4 Dracarys Gen-12?
I realize these overpriced pieces of **** give the john wick fanbois a hardon, but yeah....at least get a hardon over the right picture
LOL at not knowing what you're creaming in your jeans about.
There is an alleged manifesto floating online. I have only seen pieces, but from what I have seen the shooter had some incoherent ideology that mixed misandry and social Darwinism, and called for the extermination of men. So basically just mental illness. I am going to give myself partial credit.
So a teenager shoots up a school and you surmised that kid had a mental illness? Nice job!
Uh Oh, not misandry
Obviously I was making a bad comparaison but still a valid point .
Why shooting with a stolen gun is more dangerous , and parent been hold accountable for it , then driving a steal car if the amount of death would end up the same ?
Ie : i hate those 3-4 fool at my home but u don’t have aces to guns , fack it I’ll take the car and drives them over ?
Well if that begins to be a trend, then yes, kids without drivers license needs to be kept away from car keys with the car's owner being liable. Probably don't have to go all the way to kitchen knives as I don't think there is an age restriction buying those.
i wonder why we don't arm soldiers with cars and kitchen knifes
Say what you will, but Madison is really living up to its progressive heritage here.
When was the last time you heard of a female school shooter?
Unless the police are playing fast and loose with their definition of "female".
Ah yes, the classically socially focused and tolerant police forces of the Midwest...
The transvestigation has concluded and this young woman was cisgender. Big blow to you socially reactionary types :(
nah they don't obfuscate cultural left shootings, they simply make them disappear. they stop talking about them completely and move on.
Does the stone fact that, in the US, the occurrences of overtly right-wing domestic shootings FAR dwarf overtly left-wing domestic shootings make a difference here?!?!? Nah, it's probably the conspiracy you allude to; there's nothing the billionaire owners of corporate media like CNN fear than gun control in schools!
(this lady followed many far right-wing accounts on Twitter, yet another youth with a completely incoherent set of political beliefs that span the ideological continuum, but somehow they'll attempt to turn her into a Stalinist tankie or whatever)
Does the stone fact that, in the US, the occurrences of overtly right-wing domestic shootings FAR dwarf overtly left-wing domestic shootings make a difference here?!?!? Nah, it's probably the conspiracy you allude to; there's nothing the billionaire owners of corporate media like CNN fear than gun control in schools!
(this lady followed many far right-wing accounts on Twitter, yet another youth with a completely incoherent set of political beliefs that span the ideological continuum, but someho
What does "overtly right-wing domestic shooting" even mean? I doubt you could even define the term, much less statistically back up your claim, making your statement pretty meaningless.
When it comes to political violence, my eyes and ears tell me that left wing motivated political violence is much more prevalent than right wing; and I would not trust FBI statistics one way or the other on this, because the FBI has been ideologically captured and is not trustworthy in this regard.
But this person has a pretty incoherent ideology regardless on top of only being 15; so at first pass this seems to be more a story of mental illness, toxic social media and access to guns/irresponsible parenting.
What does "overtly right-wing domestic shooting" even mean? I doubt you could even define the term, much less statistically back up your claim, making your statement pretty meaningless.
When it comes to political violence, my eyes and ears tell me that left wing motivated political violence is much more prevalent than right wing; and I would not trust FBI statistics one way or the other on this, because the FBI has been ideologically captured and is not trustworthy in this regard.
But this pe
Your eyes and ears tell you that the left wing is responsible for every social ill. That's because of what you choose to pump into your eyes and ears.
There are plenty of historical examples of left-wing and right-wing political violence in the United Stated (and obviously the world). I'm sure that will continue to be the case in the future.
Bunch of stuff if you really want to try to delve into it.
Bunch of stuff if you really want to try to delve into it.
This "manifesto" is completely incoherent.
Being a teenager with a broken family of chronic substance abusers is not likely to be correlated with good judgment and rational thinking.
People will focus on the guns here, but this is another feather in the cap of alcohol, imo.
Bunch of stuff if you really want to try to delve into it.
Thanks. Those are some interesting role models she had.
Being a teenager with a broken family of chronic substance abusers is not likely to be correlated with good judgment and rational thinking.
True, so keep the firearms away from this kid?
People will focus on the guns here, but this is another feather in the cap of alcohol, imo.
Ah, it was the alcohol.
Well I didn’t know alcohol pushed people to be so bad .
Must be putting something different in the U.S. alcohol compare to anywhere else in the world since those issues of alcohol and broken families do exist elsewhere too .
Being a teenager with a broken family of chronic substance abusers is not likely to be correlated with good judgment and rational thinking.
People will focus on the guns here, but this is another feather in the cap of alcohol, imo.
Are you referring to the hypothetical girl that kills someone with the car or the actual shooter in Wisconsin?
