1/3 first hand at table AA
So you sit down instantly get pocket rockets first hand 1/3 500$ buy in most stacks are around 300-400 two stacks have you covered with 800+ your utg+1 and had to pre post BB your turn to act utg folded.
What's the play? I think this should be interesting because we've all been there.
Controversial decision, but I would raise here with AA.
Allin baby, its your first hand no one will believe you
Maybe play for a limp/3! or make it 30 to get HU and build the pot! If they all fold, show and say you didn't want to be drawn out on.
Normal raise size -- probably go for $15 in 1/3 if I don't know the table standard yet. I wish I were "there" more often 😉
If you sit down and you are UTG+1, don't post. Just wait two hands until you are in the natural BB. That will give you a chance to settle in and begin to understand the table dynamics. You will save money too.
Uhm...is this a troll?
Just open for your normal open size.
I limp 100% of my playing range in the ~HJ- but that's my style. If your style is to open, just open your normal amount.
ETA: Are you thinking of doing something extremely tricky, like open shoving or something? I think HOC even mentions this as a possibility with your first hand, especially if you have a well known crazy image (which I get the feeling you might), although I think a limp/jam would be more successful.
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Normal raise size -- probably go for $15 in 1/3 if I don't know the table standard yet. I wish I were "there" more often 😉
Most tables at the place I play at 15$ is the standard raise for anything. I've had this happen where i'll sit down first hand get qq kk or aa and open for 15 just to get half the table to call. Which obviously puts you in a bad spot I've been trying to guess at what would be a good size without being too large of course theres the jam pre but that could end up in make 4$ which I guess is okay, but you really just want one caller. Also difficult when no one else has really even looked at their cards yet with hero being under the gun +1.
Most tables at the place I play at 15$ is the standard raise for anything. I've had this happen where i'll sit down first hand get qq kk or aa and open for 15 just to get half the table to call. Which obviously puts you in a bad spot I've been trying to guess at what would be a good size without being too large of course theres the jam pre but that could end up in make 4$ which
If you are getting multiple callers of $15, make your raises from EP (or anywhere, really) $20 - $25 every time! Punish them. If you don't want to play multi-way or raise bigger, follow GG's advice and limp/raise.
Here's the concern because I've tried opening with qq before for 25 ended up taking down the pot without a single caller. For some reason 15$ seems like the standard bet and anything over that is automatically seen as pocket pairs unless you've been at the table for a long time. This is just what i've noticed playing at this casino in my last 20 or so sessions. On the reverse I've open limped hoping for a raise a couple weeks ago with kk and got callers from 3/4 of the field without a single raiser and the board immediately brings an ace which can put you in a real tough spot where you'll get sticky with your kk's.
If you are getting multiple callers of $15, make your raises from EP (or anywhere, really) $20 - $25 every time! Punish them. If you don't want to play multi-way or raise bigger, follow GG's advice and limp/raise.
A problem with raising x8+ is that it:
1. Forces you to raise large with your entire range
or
2. Forces you to greatly narrow you raising range
or
3. Seduces you into making "big raises for big hands" and hoping no one at the table can see through you.
I vote 1, and it's what I do.
You guys do whatever you want to do. If I'm getting half the table calling for $15, I'm bumping up my raises with everything I raise with. Let them keep calling and hoping to catch -- I'll print money.
Here's the concern because I've tried opening with qq before for 25 ended up taking down the pot without a single caller. For some reason 15$ seems like the standard bet and anything over that is automatically seen as pocket pairs unless you've been at the table for a long time. This is just what i've noticed playing at this casino in my last 20 or so sessions. On the reverse I
If you are not comfortable getting multiple callers at $15, you can raise bigger always or limp/raise. I choose raise bigger. So what if you take it down? You won. Just make sure you are raising with more than just big hands.
If you are getting multiple callers of $15, make your raises from EP (or anywhere, really) $20 - $25 every time! Punish them. If you don't want to play multi-way or raise bigger, follow GG's advice and limp/raise.
A problem with raising x8+ is that it:1. Forces you to raise large with your entire rangeor2. Forces you to greatly narrow you raising rangeor3. Seduces you into ma
Couldn't agree with you more first hand at the table and you make it say 20 or 25 like java said now that's your base line for entering a hand unless you make it much larger. I was actually wondering if you should be looking at opponent stack sizes to gauge the raise without information.
I vote 1, and it's what I do.
You guys do whatever you want to do. If I'm getting half the table calling for $15, I'm bumping up my raises with everything I raise with. Let them keep calling and hoping to catch -- I'll print money.
So you're also open raising large with hands like AJo/88/KTs?
Once I've established that the entire table is calling my $15 raises, yes. I keep my raises fairly consistent depending on position, limpers, etc., so they have no idea what I have.
Of course, since it's the first hand at the table, I'm not going to assume anything. I'm just raising to $15. If I get multiple callers, now I have my baseline.
Once I've established that the entire table is calling my $15 raises, yes. I keep my raises fairly consistent depending on position, limpers, etc., so they have no idea what I have.
I have to assume that most of your typical tablemates call too wide preflop and then play "fit-or-fold" on the flop/turn?
I wouldn't mind holding those and open raising, I guess what I am trying to imply is that it'll make my standard raise higher. I like to keep the same amount raising range when opening. However I also like to play small ball so I can chip up before I start changing gears.
Once I've established that the entire table is calling my $15 raises, yes. I keep my raises fairly consistent depending on position, limpers, etc., so they have no idea what I have.
I have to assume that most of your typical tablemates call too wide preflop and then play "fit-or-fold" on the flop/turn?
actually no people that open with 15 have no problem open raising a flop with the same bet or 2-3x thats the most typical types I see at the tables I play. It's not often that there's a table of really tight low to no action tables. Those suck I look to have a table change right away when I get to one of those but some times it can take an hour or more to get a table change. Really hard to tell what the open range is on most of these hands though because there's almost never a show down by the time its 70-100+ bet on the turn.
I have to assume that most of your typical tablemates call too wide preflop and then play "fit-or-fold" on the flop/turn?
Yes. As with almost every 1/2 or 1/3 table I've encountered 😉
