GTO Hero RTA advertising openly on Reddit

GTO Hero RTA advertising openly on Reddit


RTA service openly advertising on Reddit.

Want to share the information to get the conversation going, I saw someone else has posted it in the poker subreddit, I also tried reporting for malicious software. Really doesn't help the future of online poker though

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19 December 2024 at 02:40 AM
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by Stumeister k

RTA service openly advertising on Reddit.

Want to share the information to get the conversation going, I saw someone else has posted it in the poker subreddit, I also tried reporting for malicious software. Really doesn't help the future of online poker though

Plug your leaks and improve your game and then get banned and everything confiscated and all for a small fee. Do you feel lucky punk?


if security teams aren't banning people running software that they downloaded from a reddit banner ad then they're literally in on the rig at that point

it doesn't really matter though. a junior web dev with some AI assistance can create an RTA program that isn't going to be detectable by its .exe. you could just put a poster up at a school with a good CS program offering to pay $500 for this and a good college student could make it. the cat is fully out of the bag.


by PugDolk k

if security teams aren't banning people running software that they downloaded from a reddit banner ad then they're literally in on the rig at that point

it doesn't really matter though. a junior web dev with some AI assistance can create an RTA program that isn't going to be detectable by its .exe. you could just put a poster up at a school with a good CS program offering to pay $500 for this and a good college student could make it. the cat is fully out of the bag.

The problem is if this becomes readily available to the public, should fall on legislation to make real change, IMO

You think they would have came up with something less dramatic instead of "AI is changing poker forever" as their tagline to stay under the radar. It's basically the same thing as advertising a remote administration tool and saying "steal money today"


by Stumeister k

The problem is if this becomes readily available to the public, should fall on legislation to make real change, IMO

You think they would have came up with something less dramatic instead of "AI is changing poker forever" as their tagline to stay under the radar. It's basically the same thing as advertising a remote administration tool and saying "steal money today"

it's like making hacks for counter-strike, maybe even easier now, there's no way you can control it.


Dangerous times we live in, online poker no longer safe, im not even sure our high stakes “heroes” we admire they aren’t using these kind of undetectable RTA’s


I wouldn't call playing default GTO ranges "adapting". If this tool took into account actual player stats and provided gto solutions based on those custom ranges in real time that would be actually valuable but this is garbage IMO.


Well there’s a reason it’s using ignition in the advertisement probably won’t get banned on that site which is anonymous but surely stars or party will get you tbh idk how tho if all it does is screen share in a html its not a software installed and that’s how they catch you because if you have screen share software installed on ur cpu partypoker will not allow you to even play


by blazar k

Dangerous times we live in, online poker no longer safe, im not even sure our high stakes “heroes” we admire they aren’t using these kind of undetectable RTA’s

Yeah, idk why any of them would play high stakes at all online anymore. The recs could EASILY use RTA to just give the finger to the pros, and the pros could just as easily (if not, more) be using it because they have more knowledge of its existance.


by JVinegar k

Yeah, idk why any of them would play high stakes at all online anymore. The recs could EASILY use RTA to just give the finger to the pros, and the pros could just as easily (if not, more) be using it because they have more knowledge of its existance.

Not only knowledge but they have the money to order something customized which can't be detected i believe...


Posting this here just gives them more free advertising especially if this turns into another unbearable NVG slap fight.

The ad is clearly against Reddit's advertising policy. I reported it and separately reached out to the admins. I encourage you to do the same if you see it.


It's the private RTA software that scares me more, the commercial ones have more chance of getting caught by the sites (or you would hope).


by rpg k

Posting this here just gives them more free advertising especially if this turns into another unbearable NVG slap fight.

The ad is clearly against Reddit's advertising policy. I reported it and separately reached out to the admins. I encourage you to do the same if you see it.

Fair point.


Pretty easy to get caught using RTA... because the pool doesn't play nowhere near the GTO strategy and outliers are very easy to be caught and if you start changing the GTO strategy the tree is so fragile that it becomes very difficult to execute for a program to help you real time and keep close to the populations stats.

The real issue is when poker sites don't have appropriate statistical search and in small samples its difficult to determine anyway ,but at the same time you are not gonna be crushing big with RTA over small sample.


by rpg k

Posting this here just gives them more free advertising especially if this turns into another unbearable NVG slap fight.

The ad is clearly against Reddit's advertising policy. I reported it and separately reached out to the admins. I encourage you to do the same if you see it.

We haven’t even started arguing and you’ve already flawed your logic. I mean, why report on anything then right? Maybe the reddit administrators will figure out what RTA is after reading your report and start cheating too


In general this won't add much edge if any, and sites aren't particularly motivated to cut this sort of thing out. It's most useful at high stakes. Those most likely to be using RTA to crush online poker won't be using an off the shelf program like this, they'll have their own bespoke stuff.


wow. This is so crazy. Poker Sites need to increase their security.


by Vandalar k

I wouldn't call playing default GTO ranges "adapting". If this tool took into account actual player stats and provided gto solutions based on those custom ranges in real time that would be actually valuable but this is garbage IMO.

If someone uses RTA, that lets them play very close to GTO, with zero adaptation for specific opponent stats, even if everyone that person plays knows it’s happening, they will still be profitable long term. Garbage from the perspective of being cheating, definitely not garbage from the perspective of the tool won’t work lol


by Dilly_ k

If someone uses RTA, that lets them play very close to GTO, with zero adaptation for specific opponent stats, even if everyone that person plays knows it’s happening, they will still be profitable long term. Garbage from the perspective of being cheating, definitely not garbage from the perspective of the tool won’t work lol

Without complete trees, something no computer will be able to generate on the fly for sufficient preflop situtations, the deviation from actual GTO will be significant; on top of that, for basically all games other than high stakes, and for many players, a simulated GTO strat will be less +ev than an exploitative strat, i.e. many people using this tool will be giving ev back to bad players.


It would seem then that we would want as many players using this tool as possible so they can play a much lower EV strategy and we can easily beat them


I'll continue reading Doyle's Super/System, nostalgia but then unfortunately recycling.

Then there was HEART in the game.

Now looking at what my inner RTA can do for me live.


by ejames209 k

It would seem then that we would want as many players using this tool as possible so they can play a much lower EV strategy and we can easily beat them

You've got an unequal triangle thing going on here, like 9Ts > 22 > AKo > 9Ts. if a strong winning player abandons their winning strat for RTA strat, they're giving ev back, but they're doing it directly to the losing players and therefore indirectly back to the other winning players. the pool of those using RTA is not only 'strong winning players who would be giving EV back', it's also a bunch of breakeven or losing players, so no, I don't think we do want this tool to become popular


gee i wonder what the odds are that wazz uses rta lol


by ejames209 k

It would seem then that we would want as many players using this tool as possible so they can play a much lower EV strategy and we can easily beat them

Wrong. You definitely want the very good players to do this as they are the ones that can do a +ev exploitive strategy. You definitely do not want the fish to adopt a strategy you can not exploit.


by rickroll k

gee i wonder what the odds are that wazz uses rta lol

Idk lol I've never even used a solver myself lol what are the odds of something else lol thanks for keeping us up to date with all the random thoughts in your brain lol

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