UnitedHealth CEO Assassinated

UnitedHealth CEO Assassinated

The murder of UnitedHealthcare's CEO is a strange story. On the one hand, the killer obviously was taking steps to avoid getting caught. He was wearing a hoodie. He used a silencer. He clearly had an escape plan.

On the other hand, he was wearing a distinctive backpack. He may have left a food wrapper and a water bottle at the scene. And there was writing on each of the three shell casings (the words "deny," "defend," and "depose").

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05 December 2024 at 03:09 PM
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by GTO2.0 k

Feds going for the death penalty. Good use of resources when faced with impending shuts down. Much DOGE

The Terrorism charges are being brought by New York State, which doesn't have the death penalty.


by jalfrezi k

The Terrorism charges are being brought by New York State, which doesn't have the death penalty.

He's also being charged at the federal level on federal murder charges.


I've read that it's rare that the death penalty is pursued in a federal murder case.


by Luciom k

I think you can limit the damage when dealing with rational evil, because you can predict behaviours better, you can change rationally evil behaviours by changing incentives and so on.

So I figure for you left people are rational evil and religious theocrat are irrational evil ?


by Luciom k

Unprecedented marxists riot. There were other riots in the past, but to the best of my knowledge those weren't marxist riots. BLM is a marxist organization with self-identifying marxist founders. And portland antifas are marxists as well.

They pillaged and burnt more than 50 times in a summer, in many major cities.

I don't care about protesters which were exercising their constitutional rights. I care about the rioters, and those were overwhelmingly marxists. Including the 2 killed in self defense

One of BLM's 3 founders said that she and one of the other founders are Marxists -- but the organization itself is not Marxist in mission or in its nature. This is true by definition; BLM is an identity-based advocacy group and Marxism is an economic and political theory which has a very heavy focus on economic class -- to the near-complete exclusion of racial, ethnic, and religious identity.

I didn't know (forgot?) that BLM started up directly because of George Zimmerman getting away with murdering Trayvon Martin. Marx didn't come into play on that horrible night in Florida, but racial identity sure did!

Antifa is a total boogeyman. I'd be surprised if there were more than 1000 actual member of antifa on the planet. I'm not in antifa, nor is anyone else I know. Don't get me wrong, insofar as they exist, they rule, but yeah, there are FAR more Proud Boys/Atomwaffens/Christian nationalists/Pepes and assorted violent criminals on the American right than in equivalent groups on the American left.

The rioters in question were NOT "overwhelmingly marxists", as you claim. I WISH that were true. It's clear, though, that you're just cramming all these people you don't like into one big "Marxist" box, without regard for what that word actually means.


lol


by Luciom k

there were ammo shortages in 2020 but a bit later than the spring.

after unprecedented marxist riots were allowed to flourish in tens of major cities in the "summer of Floyd" people bought a lot of ammos

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MERIDIAN (Idaho Statesman) – Gun sales throughout the United States surged 40% in 2020, a slightly larger increase than Idaho saw, and it has left ammunition manufacturers scrambling to meet the needs of firearms owners.

“It’s just supply and demand,” Dave Freshwater, president of Idaho Arms and

There might be some marketing going on with those statements of manufacturers scrambling to mee the needs. I bought ammo, online, just like i always did, in 2021 with no problems and picked it up at my shop like normal.

Gun sales going up 40% during the pandemic is pretty similar to just about what everything else went up during that time.

The thing with gun shops is the majority of people who consistently buy and shoot and buy again, to shoot again, order online. During covid, you got flushed with a new batch of morans coming in to license up and to stock and hoard in store. Those people don't actually use what they buy but they can cause what shops normally carry + supply chain issues, to not keep up with orders. There was no real shortages of any of that stuff.

Plus, a fairly large % of people just hand load their stuff - make their own ammo. And that definitely went up doing covid and that's were some shortages were legit.



by Karl_TheOG_Marx k

One of BLM's 3 founders said that she and one of the other founders are Marxists -- but the organization itself is not Marxist in mission or in its nature. This is true by definition; BLM is an identity-based advocacy group and Marxism is an economic and political theory which has a very heavy focus on economic class -- to the near-complete exclusion of racial, ethnic, and religious identity.

I didn't know (forgot

Try this: an organization with 3 founders has one going public with "yes i am a neonazi and i would like all jews to be genocided", then try to claim that the organization is still fine. And keep in mind Marxism is a lot worse than neonazism , which is already pretty bad.


by Luciom k

Try this: an organization with 3 founders has one going public with "yes i am a neonazi and i would like all jews to be genocided", then try to claim that the organization is still fine.

this is a really good point, i wish you stopped here

by Luciom k

And keep in mind Marxism is a lot worse than neonazism , which is already pretty bad.

lol


Wow I only get Luciom from other's quotes, but this 'Marxism is a lot worse than neonazism, which is already pretty bad.' just makes me hear his voice as Mr Mackey from South Park. M'kay.


by Luciom k

You the guy who stalks me claiming i claimed things i never claimed all the times.

That's an example of irrational evil

How exactly is a guy hanging out in a political forum “stalking” you by commenting on your hypocrisy and inconstancies when you post on every issue in every thread here?


by Luciom k

Try this: an organization with 3 founders has one going public with "yes i am a neonazi and i would like all jews to be genocided", then try to claim that the organization is still fine. And keep in mind Marxism is a lot worse than neonazism , which is already pretty bad.

😮

by diebitter k

Wow I only get Luciom from other's quotes, but this 'Marxism is a lot worse than neonazism, which is already pretty bad.' just makes me hear his voice as Mr Mackey from South Park. M'kay.

:p

Anyway, I can't stop laughing at NYC Mayor Eric Adams walking behind Mangione in the perp walk. This guy has never seen a camera he won't make love to. He's a Democratic Trump in so many ways. Shout out to the NYC voters!


by jjjou812 k

How exactly is a guy hanging out in a political forum “stalking” you by commenting on your hypocrisy and inconstancies when you post on every issue in every thread here?

Going ad hominem repeatedly in all threads against me even when not talked to is pretty much what online stalking is about

Same as you do.


by Karl_TheOG_Marx k

Anyway, I can't stop laughing at NYC Mayor Eric Adams walking behind Mangione in the perp walk. This guy has never seen a camera he won't make love to. He's a Democratic Trump in so many ways. Shout out to the NYC voters!

He should have taken a selfie with Mangione during the walk and posted it.


Was it ever confirmed that Mangione was the person that Adams was talking about when they said they had a suspect? I know it came out that there had been a tip about him from San Francisco from someone who apparently recognized him.


by Luciom k

Going ad hominem repeatedly in all threads against me even when not talked to is pretty much what online stalking is about

Same as you do.

More nonsense from you.

Your shtick is "Everything I don't like is Marxist and if only we lived in my ideal society we could kill all the people responsible legally".

The only value in having you here is to give you less time to spread your hateful lies and fascism in places you wouldn't get ridiculed.


by Luciom k

Going ad hominem repeatedly in all threads against me even when not talked to is pretty much what online stalking is about

Same as you do.

I attack your ideas as ridiculous:

Recent examples:

1. Only elected officials should make financial decisions so they are accountable to the voters.
2. Elected officials that violate the constitution should be criminal charged and barred from office
3. Everyone that disagrees with Luciom’s political positions is a leftist or marxist and should be prosecuted.
4. Protestors should be subjected to vigilante violence.
5. Death penalty sentences should be carried out immediately.
6. A patchwork of state laws would be better than the federal system in the U.S.

These ideas are simply laughable on their face. Sorry you believe pointing it out is an ad hominem attack.


by jjjou812 k

I attack your ideas as ridiculous:

Recent examples:

1. Only elected officials should make financial decisions so they are accountable to the voters.
2. Elected officials that violate the constitution should be criminal charged and barred from office
3. Everyone that disagrees with Luciom’s political positions is a leftist or marxist and should be prosecuted.
4. Protestors should be subjected to vigilante violence.
5. Death penalty sentences should be carried out immediately.
6. A patchwork

Here the problem is that 3) and 4) were never my claims, nor 6) for what has to be federal (my point about 6) is that only very few things have to be federal, as the constitution itself clearly states).

You made up those claims. 1) (with the "confirmed by the senate" as well people) 2) and 5) yes are claims i made, you just stated you disagree, which is normal politicla conversation although you never make an argument just go ad hominem like "luciom claims this so it's wrong". But you do you.

But pls don't completly make up claims. 4) never happened in the slightest, what happened is that i claimed that vigilante justice against anyone committing a violent crime in flagrancy (which can be protestors blocking a street illegally for example, but not protesting per se) is always good for me and should be fully legitimized legally.


I fully admit that I paraphrased your recent luciomisms and I won’t go back and research them based on your wordplay in your post. Others can agree or disagree with my example or tell me that I have taken things out of context, but your vigilante justice against street protestors clarification isn’t as helpful as you believe.


luc just put him on ignore like everyone else

he is malicious where he regularly mischaracterizes arguments in order to better attack them, possibly he's just room temp iq and isn't even aware of this and just misunderstands, nothing he's ever done has ever demonstrated a modicum of intelligence so this is very plausible

he contributes nothing of his own

he's just a loser troll who only shows up here to attack but because he goes after people like you the mods allow it - should have been banned years ago

don't bother engaging, just put him on ignore and let him post into the void of ether


Rinse and repeat. Still fails.



by jalfrezi k

Since you posted this in the assassination thread, how many assassinations will it take for us to get to 0?


by campfirewest k

Since you posted this in the assassination thread, how many assassinations will it take for us to get to 0?

Less than 100 but probably approaching that amount?

I'd have to think after the 87th healthcare exec is whacked the rest of them are either deep underground or they're busy lobbying congress or something

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