call all in?

call all in?

[converted_hand][hand_history]PokerStars - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

SB: $25.00 (100 bb)
BB: $31.02 (124.1 bb)
Hero (UTG): $29.32 (117.3 bb)
CO: $24.84 (99.4 bb)
BTN: $25.53 (102.1 bb)

SB posts $0.10, BB posts $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A A
Hero raises to $0.75, CO calls $0.75, 2 folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35, 3 players) 6 4 7
BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50, BB calls $1.50

Turn: ($6.85, 3 players) A
BB checks, Hero bets $4.75, CO calls $4.75, BB calls $4.75

River: ($21.10, 3 players) 2
BB checks, Hero bets $9.75, CO raises to $17.84 and is all-in, fold, Hero calls $8.09

Results: $56.78 pot ($2.00 rake)
Final Board: 6 4 7 A 2

CO shows 8 5: (Straight, Eight High)
(Pre 16%, Flop 97%, Turn 77%)

Hero shows A A: (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 84%, Flop 3%, Turn 23%)

CO wins $54.78
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21 December 2024 at 05:48 PM
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Don't cbet this flop. Not even heads up.


why?


by Micros_Isildur k

Don't cbet this flop. Not even heads up.

terrible advice. as played is fine, try and find a fold against the shove on the river if you can get some kind of read but I'd probably be calling with top set too.


by ruo44 k

terrible advice.

? Very standard range check


so youre what? check/calling flop then check/raising turn?


by cokolwiek k

why?

*In theory* you are screwed on this board. As the early position opener, you don't have 44, you don't have all 66 combinations because you sometimes fold them preflop when you open 2.5BB, you don't have 53. And you have a ton of garbage hands like offsuit broadways which do not connect with this flop (AsJc for example), suited Ax or Kx, etc etc.

I think having a flatting range CO vs MP 2.5x open is unnecessary, but when it exists it is *supposed* to be composed of suited broadways, suited aces and pocket pairs. CO's range is stronger than yours on this flop.

As for BB they definitively have 53, 66, 44, 77 in their range, and 85s is not completely extraordinary either.

--> Your range is crushed by their combined ranges, we just check.

GTOwizard cannot solve a 3-way pot, and it won't accept CO cold calling HJ open, but let's assume you open HJ, BTN cold call and you get this flop: the solver will just check its entire range, see below. When HJ faces 2 opponents, it is even worse

*In practice* against terrible opponents who cold call 85s vs a HJ open maybe you can get away with cbetting your strong hands like AA and checking your whiffs, because if they have so much trash in their range they will have to surrender the pot or call down with marginal holdings. I would personally check no matter what vs 2 opponents, but I might be wrong.



by cokolwiek k

why?

You have one pair on a board where villains have:
sets, two pairs, pair+draws, combodraws, which you are either crushed by or behind.
Flushdraws, straightdraws, which you barely have an equity advantage over. And you have TWO opponents. You are also OOP.

You have 2 outs to improve, but 1 of them is Ah which completes flushes. All hearts, fives, eights, threes are terrible turns for you. Even with bricks you can't be too happy with because you often face c/c > c/jam line by sets.

RIVER:
What are you trying to extract value from with the river bet? Sets, two pairs? Don't you think all two pairs and sets would have already jammed turn? I barely see any hand that calls you that is worse than yours.
AP, if you check/call river, at least you can catch some bluffs in case they find them.


Bet bet JAM don't do this 1/2 bet if they have hands to call 1/2 they have hands to call JAM.
They will get sticky with Ax of hearts and lots of other bullshit.
Don't listen to people that say you can't get value on the river thats completely wrong to check and try to bluff catch in a spot where we have top set.
Fish tend to trap alot IP with fairly strong hands that can call as you can see he doesn't jam nuts so basically the argument for him jaming turn with sets and two pairs doesn't hold any water.

Ofc in theory if they play proper ranges its difficult to have edge on this texture ,but we're playing against weak opponents that have wide ranges.

Pretty sure BB is gonna shove turn as hes OOP if he had strong hand ,but its opponent dependent.

The way you have to think about the spot is forget all theory it doesn't matter all it matters is how aggressive they are what range you give them etc you won't crush micros by folding top set on the river for effectively 32bb more.

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