UnitedHealth CEO Assassinated

UnitedHealth CEO Assassinated

The murder of UnitedHealthcare's CEO is a strange story. On the one hand, the killer obviously was taking steps to avoid getting caught. He was wearing a hoodie. He used a silencer. He clearly had an escape plan.

On the other hand, he was wearing a distinctive backpack. He may have left a food wrapper and a water bottle at the scene. And there was writing on each of the three shell casings (the words "deny," "defend," and "depose").

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05 December 2024 at 03:09 PM
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by jalfrezi k

Are you suggesting that without the gun we'd have no idea who the perp was?

No. I am suggesting that the shooter was/is mentally ill. He is at the age where serious mental illness (schizophrenia) tends to present itself.


by Rococo k

He shot someone in midtown Manhattan in broad daylight. Getting away with it obviously wasn't that high on his list of priorities.

It was dark. He’s likely mentally ill.


the internet hasn't said once he is mentally ill so what do we make of the internet


This doesn't sound the sort of killing that voices in the head drive people to make fwiw.


by MrDavitWilliam k

No. I am suggesting that the shooter was/is mentally ill. He is at the age where serious mental illness (schizophrenia) tends to present itself.

I don’t follow your argument.

You said you think he’s mentally il because he didn’t ditch the gun, but the gun wasn’t needed to identify him.


by jalfrezi k

I don’t follow your argument.

You said you think he’s mentally il because he didn’t ditch the gun, but the gun wasn’t needed to identify him.

A non-mentally ill person would do everything he knows that can reduce the chance of getting caught or convicted if found.

It's true that they probably don't need the gun to convict (if jurors vote on evidence) but how could he know that beforehand?


by the pleasure k

the internet hasn't said once he is mentally ill so what do we make of the internet

It did, there was all the discourse about Mangione brain having been fried by Ayahuasca


by jalfrezi k

I don’t follow your argument.

You said you think he’s mentally il because he didn’t ditch the gun, but the gun wasn’t needed to identify him.

My argument is that he is mentally ill. (Failing to ditch the gun afterward is merely one of many data points suggesting he’s mentally ill; it’s not the only data point. Duh.) Why? Because he shot a defenseless man that he appears to have had zero direct connection to in the back. Let’s leave it there.

It appears you are itching to argue that murdering this guy was somehow “logical” or “justified”. If so, have at it.


by Luckbox Inc k

This doesn't sound the sort of killing that voices in the head drive people to make fwiw.

OK. If you say so. I never claimed he heard voices. I said he’s mentally ill, which encompasses a great deal of things. Because he clearly is.


by Luckbox Inc k

He used a suppressed gun and had some sort of plan with the city bike so I don't think he was trying or wanting to get caught which makes the gun and confession note a bit strange.

Yeah it's not like suspects confessing have ever happened before. Getting caught, despite not wanting to get caught is extremely suspicious also. I mean it's not like prisons are full of such types, after all.


by Luciom k

A non-mentally ill person would do everything he knows that can reduce the chance of getting caught or convicted if found.

It's true that they probably don't need the gun to convict (if jurors vote on evidence) but how could he know that beforehand?

He'd know he would be captured many times on CCTV. This is Manhattan ffs.


by corpus vile k

Yeah it's not like suspects confessing have ever happened before. Getting caught, despite not wanting to get caught is extremely suspicious also. I mean it's not like prisons are full of such types, after all.

They confess when they're in an interrogation room they don't have the note on them ready to go


by MrDavitWilliam k

OK. If you say so. I never claimed he heard voices. I said he’s mentally ill, which encompasses a great deal of things. Because he clearly is.

You mentioned schizophrenia and brought up the age where that typically presents itself in males.


by Luckbox Inc k

You mentioned schizophrenia and brought up the age where that typically presents itself in males.

Yes, I did. Very good.


by MrDavitWilliam k

Yes, I did.

The way discussion works is that people say things and then other people infer things based on what is said.

Maybe he's borderline (rare in males). Probably not schizophrenic though. Where is Gangstaman?


by Luckbox Inc k

The way discussion works is that people say things and then other people infer things based on what is said.

OK. I think he’s likely mentally ill. From that you should infer that I believe he suffers from some form of mental illness. Not sure how that wasn’t clear. I hope it now is.


Everyone is mentally ill. Some are just more mentally ill than others


Apart from MrDavitWilliam, who is arrive.


by Luckbox Inc k

Everyone is mentally ill. Some are just more mentally ill than others

OK.


by Luckbox Inc k

They confess when they're in an interrogation room they don't have the note on them ready to go

Plenty of killers- mainly mass shooters but also unabomber style nuts- leave manifestos or notes which pretty much amount to confessions, or may confess in diaries or video diaries/phone footage. I don't think an assassin style lone nut killer having a confession on him is especially strange tbh.


by jalfrezi k

He'd know he would be captured many times on CCTV. This is Manhattan ffs.

He wore a mask for that (thanks to all those "very smart" people who normalized wearing masks in public) which made it 100-1000x harder for law enforcement to track him down


by Luciom k

He wore a mask for that (thanks to all those "very smart" people who normalized wearing masks in public) which made it 100-1000x harder for law enforcement to track him down

I thought they'd never catch him as he ran up the numbers on his killing spree.


by Luciom k

He wore a mask for that (thanks to all those "very smart" people who normalized wearing masks in public) which made it 100-1000x harder for law enforcement to track him down

"Watch for a man running in the street. Montag."


I still think you could make a stronger defense case for OJ than you could for this case

not sure why people were confused when I said that


by Luciom k

He wore a mask for that (thanks to all those "very smart" people who normalized wearing masks in public) which made it 100-1000x harder for law enforcement to track him down

If the boneheads exercising their right to get a haircut would have stayed inside for a couple of weeks, the virus would have had far greater difficulty in being able to find new hosts.

But lmao at implying that scientists should be able to know 100% about every novel virus that comes around and thus all their advice needs to be spot on and never need revision.

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