In other news

In other news

In the current news climate we see that some figures and events tend to dominate the front-pages heavily. Still, there are important, interesting or just plain weird things happening out there and a group of people can find these better than one.

I thought I would test with a thread for linking general news articles about "other news" and discussion. Perhaps it goes into the abyss that is page 2 and beyond, but it is worth a try.

Some guidelines:
- Try to find the "clean link", so that links to the news site directly and not a social media site. Avoid "amp-links" (google).
- Write some cliff notes on what it is about, especially if it is a video.
- It's not an excuse to make outlandish claims via proxy or link extremist content.
- If it's an editorial or opinion piece, it is polite to mark it as such.
- Note the language if it is not in English.
- There is no demand that such things be posted here, if you think a piece merits its own thread, then make one.

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12 October 2020 at 08:13 AM
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by jalfrezi k

I didn't say I'd take them in. Learn to read better.

Luciom was talking about immigration and what he thinks should be done with immigrants who a country doesn't want.

Be less of a fascism enabler and show more humanity if you can find some.

immigrants a country doesn't want are illegal trespassers identical to people entering your property without you agreeing, for all non leftists.

the idea you have no right to access other people stuff isn't fascism, it's basic property rights.


by rickroll k

literally, no u

the question was clear without many options

either feed and house indefinitely or you don't

you are a coward to say you wouldn't do it indefinitely and felt the need to include some grade a virtue signaling nonsense

you dodged it as expected, because you've set yourself up as such a "good person" that you're too much of coward to admit the reality that if you had a homeless man at your door demanding to be housed and fed indefinitely you wouldn't welcome him in and agree with it, you

Nowhere in your original post you stated indefinitely, so you are the one in bad faith.
Also the problem with luia is he is speaking in absolute, there is no in between, it's all 0 or 1.


by Luciom k

ok so we are at the "any politics I dislike is fascism" phase of the debate, because your quotes of me have absolutely nothing to do with fascism.

being ruthless, with no empathy, not giving a **** about the poors and so on has absolutely nothing to do with fascism, fascism actually favors a significant welfare state (much more than classic liberalism).

fascism isn't the opposite of social democracy, and hating social democracy isn't fascism.

"Killing would be the last recourse"

BUT NOT FASCISM


by weeeez k

Nowhere in your original post you stated indefinitely, so you are the one in bad faith.
Also the problem with luia is he is speaking in absolute, there is no in between, it's all 0 or 1.

we're talking about migrants at the border, there is no "one meal" solution


I'd hate to be so scared of the possibility of immigrants coming to my country that I began to imagine queues of people at my door threatening me if I didn't feed them.

lol rick


Demand evidence.
Ignore evidence.
Shift the goalposts of the argument.
Personally attack.
Claim it is a personal deficiency.

4 out of 5, so far. Why do you guys bother with the clown.


To be honest, I wish I hadn't.


by jalfrezi k

I'd hate to be so scared of the possibility of immigrants coming to my country that I began to imagine queues of people at my door threatening me if I didn't feed them.

lol rick

it's literally the same exact thing

one you face the burden directly, another you face it indirectly - but you're still facing the same burden

but keep on playing games just to keep on that virtue signal mask, i'm sure everyone here thinks how amazing you are as a person, can't imagine how many people are going to show up to your funeral praising your selflessness

gg wp


5 for 5.


Luciom contradict himself like half the time….
Has no idea where fascism is on the political Spectrum either..
And use ridiculous argument like because something happen before it cant be called fascism even tho fascism uses those same methods later on …

by Luciom k

I am not sure why i am supposed to answer fabricated claims about my claims. I don't want the state to have authority to kill people for expressing ideas as i repeatedly stated.

I want the state to be allowed to use violence to protect people though, against enemies foreign and domestic, against violent actions (which include violence against property), that's one of the very few roles the state has to accomplish in a classic liberal model as well.

For example the state firing on rioting striking

It’s ridiculous.
The problem with the last bolded part is luciom disregard why and what that specific law is for to begin with …
Obviously all government are stuck to use violence at some point …
it’s about why tho and the premisse behind luciom fascism is this ~>
freedom is usually represented by a large body of actions and outcomes ,
But luciom about putting laws through very restrictive far right political idologies and afterwards saying im for freedom and agree States uses violence or Kill people for people that disobey….
Then saying its not fascism to punish people that are different allegiances because they break an already fascist law ?

lol…

Jalfrezi been posting gooD stuff …


Fwiw luciom….
Being very narrowminded view of freedom and what is acceptable in Society based solely on far right ideology doesnt makes you a fascist …
But afterward agreeing for the states to enforce your vision by using violence to eradicate the « evil left » and anything you disagree with , preventing any existence of counter vision of the world (eradicating possible compromise as an example) is what makes u a fascist ….
Those that ressemble some historical political figures in italy and Germany ?

Like communist using the same methods (violence) but for different ideology (your counter part , the far left ) .

Communist, its like fascism using similar methods of under a far left ideology (yes luciom violence too)….

Fascism , using similar methods of repression under a far right ideology (yes like u love and admit , violence !)
Results ?
Both cases, no other view point are tolerable and contradiction are immediately violently punish …

Yes there is a third , theocracies , same garbage but this time it isnt left or right but based on God , another arbitrary nonsense (hi talibans for example ) .

You Know what freedom is luciom and Real democracy is ?
It’s when those 3 « factions » can come together , finding agreements through compromises , not using violence , and come together understanding that the world isnt binary .


by jalfrezi k

I'd hate to be so scared of the possibility of immigrants coming to my country that I began to imagine queues of people at my door threatening me if I didn't feed them.

Not sure what you don't get. If you oppose the government issuing breeding passes and restricting low performing low education rurals and other Trumpy groups from procreating that means you're ok with a bunch of random kids staying with you and eating your food.


by Montrealcorp k

Fwiw luciom….
Being very narrowminded view of freedom and what is acceptable in Society based solely on far right ideology doesnt makes you a fascist …
But afterward agreeing for the states to enforce your vision by using violence to eradicate the « evil left » and anything you disagree with , preventing any existence of counter vision of the world (eradicating possible compromise as an example) is what makes u a fascist ….
Those that ressemble some historical political figures in italy and German

Can only happen if all participants agree with constitutional limits to the power of the state.

The left incessant attempt to disregard constitutional limits every time they are a roadblock to some collectivist aim makes the left an inherently illegitimate participant of the democratic process.

Constitutional, liberal democracy is about deciding the direction and the goals of political power WITHIN ultra-stricts limits that can never be touched (unless the vast majority of the population wants to, and amends the limits themselves). When an entire, and popolous, political tribe utterly disregards that rule which is at the very basis of the entire concept of democracy, you don't have a functioning democracy anymore.

There is no compromising on those strict limits until they are amended by ultraqualified majorities.


In other news, an immigrant who entered just 2 days ago just committed an horrific act of terror driving a truck through the crowd in New Orleans, to which i suppose the left will answer with "we need more truck control laws"


They've been trying to ban trucks for years but this was reportedly an electric one.


Ya but was he Muslim? Did he ever post anything remotely negative about Israel?


by Victor k

Ya but was he Muslim? Did he ever post anything remotely negative about Israel?

The terrorist was identified as Shamsud Din Jabbar, and he had an ISIS flag, explosives in the truck, and was wearing body armor.


by Luciom k

In other news, an immigrant who entered just 2 days ago just committed an horrific act of terror driving a truck through the crowd in New Orleans, to which i suppose the left will answer with "we need more truck control laws"

you sure about all this?

by Luciom k

The terrorist was identified as Shamsud Din Jabbar, and he had an ISIS flag, explosives in the truck, and was wearing body armor.

you sure about all this?


by Victor k

you sure about all this?

you sure about all this?

Citizenship status hasn't been confirmed, name and explosives yes, that the flag was ISIS is only in some media others claim they have to check which flag it is (??? should take 30 seconds)


I have seen conflicting reports on his citizenship. and conflicting pictures of the flag.


by Luciom k

In other news, an immigrant who entered just 2 days ago just committed an horrific act of terror driving a truck through the crowd in New Orleans, to which i suppose the left will answer with "we need more truck control laws"

It was reported he entered through El Paso area just a couple days ago.

Here's the problem with that.

They've been coming in for years on a daily basis.

How many more are there just like him?

These next few weeks are gonna wake all the people up who supported "open borders" and "felt bad" for the poor lost "migrants trying to seek asylum" when this was all about tearing down a country from the inside out under an incompetent leadership (who aren't our leaders, they're our enemies in disguise). 300K kids are unaccounted for. And how many billions of foreign aid's unaccounted for?

I hope all the biden and harris supporters are ashamed of themselves by now for supporting his, and I hope I'm wrong about the weeks leading to the inauguration because it could get extremely ugly.


BREAKING NEWS: What appears to be a Tesla truck parked in front of Trump Tower in Las Vegas just exploded resulting in an evacuation.

https://x.com/Aku_700/status/18745094756...


CNN is saying he was a US citizen.


twitter users found the guy as soon as his name was released but now mainstream media is confirming.


same guy?


by Playbig2000 k

It was reported he entered through El Paso area just a couple days ago.

Here's the problem with that.

They've been coming in for years on a daily basis.

How many more are there just like him?

These next few weeks are gonna wake all the people up who supported "open borders" and "felt bad" for the poor lost "migrants trying to seek asylum" when this was all about tearing down a country from the inside out under an incompetent leadership (who aren't our leaders, they're our enemies in disguise). 3

So even by your account the overwhelming majority of these people coming in are fine.

Then it turns out he is a texan.

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