PLO8 Rules
Hi all,
I am complete beginner at PLO8 and I am trying to understand this two hands. Can anyone please explain to me why Player 1 scooped both hands? In my opinion they should be split. I will post the hands now, living suits out, because they are irrelevant to the hands.
First hand: Player 1 has 3 7 7 5. Player 2 has A 10 8 6.
Community cards are Q 6 10 4 5
Player one scooped the hand.
Second hand: Player 1 has A 6 5 3. Player 2 has 9 9 6 2
Community cards are A A 8 4 K
Player one scooped the hand.
So it is obvious that Player 1 has better high hand in both hands. However, I don't understand how does he have better low hand in both hands.
In the first hand Player 1's low hand is same as the straight, 3 4 5 6 7 , and Player 2's low hand is A 4 5 6 8, which is better low hand than the Player 1's low hand.
Om the second hand Player 1's low hand is A 3 5 4 8, and Player 2's low hand is A 2 4 6 8, which is better low hand than the Player 1's low hand.
I am sorry if I am ask something stupid, I just don't understand.
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There is a dedicated Omaha/8 section right below this section. But no problem, let's clear this up for you. You wrote the low hands for each play ascending order, don't do this. Write the low hands in descending order and all will be revealed.
Hand one you wrote in ascending order that you think A4568 beats 34567. But watch what happens if you write it in descending order. Player one has 76543 and player two has 8654A. The card 7 is lower than the card 8.
Hand two will reveal the same. Player one has 8543A and player two has 8642A. The cards 85 are lowering than the cards 86.
It is no big deal once you know the trick in reading the cards. Happy New Year.
There is a dedicated Omaha/8 section right below this section. But no problem, let's clear this up for you. You wrote the low hands for each play ascending order, don't do this. Write the low hands in descending order and all will be revealed.
Hand one you wrote in ascending order that you think A4568 beats 34567. But watch what happens if you write it in descending order. Player one has 76543 and player two has 8654A. The card 7 is lower than the card 8.
Hand two will reveal the same. Play
Thanks a lot for the explanation. Just one more example, just to be clear that I got it right. According to this rule, 7 6 5 3 A is better low hand than 8 6 5 2 1? Does that mean that you can have A 2 low hand and still lose the low hand against someone that doesn't have A 2, but 2 3 or A 3?
The power of A2 is that you will have the lowest low as long as you don't get counterfeited by an ace or deuce hitting the flop. In any form of Omaha you have to use two cards from your hand. Your A2 if not somehow counterfeited by an ace or deuce on the board will always give you the lowest two cards in your hand and you will then add the lowest three cards on the board. If you have A2 then someone with 23 is only able to beat you for the low if an A hits the board. Same goes for if you have A2 then someone with A3 can only beat you for the low if a 2 hits the board. That isn't to say you only play A2, but anything else is not starting out as the nut low draw. Also play long enough and you will start to read different player types. There are some that raise and bet the A2 aggressively. And there are others that need protection from being counterfeited and only bet aggressively when they have A23 or a high to go with their A2 like AA2. PLO8 is a fun game, but often people's hands might as well be turn over for all to see because it is obvious what people have. Then it becomes a game of knowing when you have a chance to scoop or quarter people. Also if you sit at a table long enough you will hear someone say, "I am happy to win half." This is the wrong mentality. PLO8 is a scooping game. Win your fair of halves, but play hard trying to scoop and 3/4 whole pot people. The most common ways to scoop are hole cards of...
having an extra wheel card so you start with a "wheel wrap" i.e. A23x, A24x, A24x, A34x, etc.
having a broadway card also to have a "broadway wrap" i.e. AK2x, AQ2x, AKT3, etc.
having a suited ace so you can make a flush A2/suited ace
The power of A2 is that you will have the lowest low as long as you don't get counterfeited by an ace or deuce hitting the flop. In any form of Omaha you have to use two cards from your hand. Your A2 if not somehow counterfeited by an ace or deuce on the board will always give you the lowest two cards in your hand and you will then add the lowest three cards on the board. If you have A2 then someone with 23 is only able to beat you for the low if an A hits the board. Same goes for if you hav
Thanks a lot.
First hand: Player 1 has 3 7 7 5. Player 2 has A 10 8 6.
Community cards are Q 6 10 4 5
Second hand: Player 1 has A 6 5 3. Player 2 has 9 9 6 2
Community cards are A A 8 4 K
The way I look at is is that out of the two cards the players are using for the low, whichever the highest of those is the lowest (if that makes sense) makes it the best low. So, in hand one, 7 is lower than 8. In hand two, 5 is lower than 6.
Obviously it's the same thing blue.feet says, but it's easier for me to sort it that way at the table.
'lowest high card' is about as simple as you can make this rule.
Same difference, but below are the OP's reads, which OP thought Player 2 should win, so if OP remembers to think of the cards in the players' hands, not the board, it can help -- it's how I remember it and hoping this might help the OP:
Player 1's low hand is same as the straight, 3 4 5 6 7, and Player 2's low hand is A 4 5 6 8
Player 1's low hand is A 3 5 4 8, and Player 2's low hand is A 2 4 6 8
Again, 7 is lower than 8 and 5 is lower than 6.
Then the wording of 'lowest high card in their hand' isn't accurate when you can have 4 low cards in your hand, surely
Out of the two cards you are using for the low -- sorry if you didn't understand that from my bolded hole cards in the examples or the fact that I explained it: out of the two cards the players are using for the low. I hope it's clear now.
