Misplayed AK.

What position are we in? If we're not in LP, I'd just limp in. Otherwise I'd raise slightly more to make it 10% of stacks to call (where I'd feel a little more comfortable stacking off postflop, which we'll most likely have to do postflop due to SPR).

Not ideal goign 4ways as now more players got slightly better IO (although fairly sucky ~13:1 overall). With an SPR of ~2, we're committed, imo. Don't think we should be dragging this over 3 streets, so I'd size to end things on the turn. If there was a flush draw I think jamming at this SPR is fine. Without it I'd probably just go like $75 to setup a turn jam. If anyone is super stabby we could perhaps risk a check/shove (although that is risky).

Another problem with betting small on the flop and dragging this out over three streets is that we'll often start seeing monsters on bad runouts (and yet we'll still only have a little over a PSB left, so we're still mostly committed). Nut low turn card tho as the most likey hand we're beating KQ now got there. JJ can easily be in the mix, as could QQ to the small flop sizing. I honestly don't mind changing my commitment plan at this point and check/folding.

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I was next to act after the UTG+1.

Again, just my style (which admittedly everyone hates), but I much prefer an overlimp from this early. But, each to their own and setup the situation *you* want to be in.

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I'm feeling mubsy, tbh. But, we've ~40 straddles, we hit top/top, so don't we have to go with it on the flop 4 ways? Agreed, betting larger on the flop makes this an easier decision.

A knowledgeable V shouldn't be overcalling 33 or JJ pf, right? How big was everyone else's stack pre? I'm interpreting the tanking on flop as, "If I just call, will V2 & V3 come along?"

I feel like a wimp, but I'm probably folding turn.

Let's get this out of the way to start. He's not good. He probably coldcalls when he should be raising or folding, and his post-flop skills sound TAGfishy.

I think the flop bet is fine. Why price out people who are drawing to 5 outs or fewer?

I don't mind a turn check against a TAGfish villain who's going to bet if he sees weakness. No way am I folding to the turn bet with TP/TK and a gutter to the nut straight, especially when the hand started with only 40BB effective!

Since you're OOP, I'd probably just CRAI.

I agree with AF.

I think the flop cbet is perfectly fine multiway. I like the turn check and, when we are this shallow, I would just GII with this hand. You are never dead here, and I think you are good more often than you might think. I see villains monkey bet these spots all the time with hands like KTs, K9s, QTs, JTs, TT, etc. I wouldn't even be surprised if you are chopping a good amount.

IMO the overlimp is fine if a raise and calls are likely and we can 3! maybe shove. Some of the situations you say limp are pretty weird, but this one is a reasonable option.

As for hand, I know solvers often like small cbets, but sizing is bad. Small cbet makes things more difficult when a broadway card hits as it did.

I think you have to go with the hand this shallow. I would probably bet turn though.

Grunch:

Reads - Not sure what to make of the read on this V. Why does he see you as a nit? Is that likely to make him cautious about 3B'ing you pre? Does he think you'd get trappy on the turn?

PRE - why raise to $25 over 1 limp, especially when we're only starting out $250 deep? Why not raise to $20? Hell, I might even over-limp here, hoping someone puts in a squeeze, so we can back-raise.

FLOP - Four ways and first to act, I'd be range-checking, not c-betting, for any size. What would you be hoping would happen if you c-bet larger? Everyone folds, and we just take it down?

When V calls next to act, we can assume he has a piece of the board, or a decent draw.

TURN - as played to this point, I don't hate the turn check, but I think I'd just barrel for a small size, like $50, and fold to a raise. The problem with checking is it opens the door for him to bet bigger, and put us in the blender, whether he has value or a bluff.

His bet is barely more than half-pot, which seems pretty milky, like he's got 2P and knows he's good, or maybe he called flop with AT or T9, getting a good price.

I suppose there is a world where he shows up with AQ or AJ, and we actually have the best hand. This is why I don't like raising so large pre, and c-betting the flop. He could play AQ or AJ this way. I would. It looks like you have JT, TT or 99 and don't like how the board is running out after getting called on the flop, or just ace-high that was out of line pre.

If we raised smaller pre, and checked the flop, we'd have more info here, and a higher SPR.

I dunno, man. I don't really love any of our options here. If we just fold, his bluffs are printing. If we just call, I don't see how we can fold the river. If we can't fold the river, I guess we could jam, but I don't see him folding anything for another $105.

So, either fold and hope he had us beat, or jam, and hope he doesn't.

Ah. Good catch on the straddle. I must have overlooked that.

$25 over 1 limp does seem a tad small in that light, but still - we're only 250 eff to start. Maybe we don't need to go balls out pre-flop on this one. If there was ever a spot to over-limp from MP pre, this might be it.

I see the reasoning for getting it in on the flop with TPTK when the straddle is on and we're only 40 straddles deep. But at low stakes, it just seems like opponents aren't adjusting to the straddle correctly. They get involved with mostly the same ranges.

I like a check on the flop to x/r. I guess at this SPR it should be a CRAI. It's just hard to see a world where we get called by worse. I guess we don't mind taking it down on the flop.

I like CRAI better than c-betting 1/3 to 2/3 pot, if there's a possibility we might fold turn.

I dunno. I think this would have been easier if we hadn't raised pre with AKo and a guy who likes to cold call raises with big PP's behind us. It's not clear what position we're in, but if there's even a remote chance someone behind us will raise, I'd rather over-limp to re-raise pre, and then just get it in, either pre or on most flops.

If no one raises, we go to the flop multi-way with AK and a higher SPR, facing a bunch of capped ranges.

Don’t overestimate your low stakes opponents. At 2/3 with a straddle and clueless limpers 250eff, we get called plenty by worse. Or fold out weak stabs with equity and still almost double up.

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I think 1/3 sizing multiway is perfectly fine on this board. QT has 7 outs, all other holdings that call have only 5 and are put in the toughest situation with a 1/3 sizing.

Don't let bad outcomes lead you astray into overbetting for extra protection in the future. You'll win more $ in the long run even if you lose more total pots played.

I think the turn is jusftiably a call or fold neither seems too egregious.

I say he "Seems to know what he is doing" because he seemed to know what he was doing. I'm not saying he is a superstar or even a winning player. He carried himself in a way that made me think he was a thinking player. The guy to my right did not seem like he knew what he was doing. The BB definitely did not seem to know what he was doing. Also, how are you guy's extrapolating he doesn't know what he is doing based on two examples I gave pre flop?

As I wrote upthread, "He probably coldcalls when he should be raising or folding, and his post-flop skills sound TAGfishy."

I'll take a couple of objective data points over your impressions of how confident someone seems at the table, as if confidence is even correlated with skill when talking about a typical fish.

Preflop and flop are fine.

Horrible turn card. The small flop sizing may have kept in the gutshots (not a bad thing...until now!) and there can be all sorts of two pair hands. You still have a few outs yourself to win or chop if behind. Note complete rainbow board. I imagine there's not much between CRAI and folding. At this stack depth getting it in can't be terrible, I probably just go with it

You described a player that doesn’t know what they’re doing. But are saying that it seems like he knows what he’s doing. Which one is it?
Are you talking about how he handled his chips or something?