In need of advice
Hi, I need some advice if anyone can help me.
I'm a good poker player. I'm 40y.o. in Feb. And been playing since 20 y.o. I moved to Vegas in 2016 a played about 45 hours a week for 7 weeks and did very good. I think about $17/hour at 300 hours. Not alot of hours but good enough as a first time serious player to be able to judge if I'm "good" enough. I had to leave due to an unavoidable family situation.
Anyway, I have about $600/month extra and have been going nuts playing the micro stakes. As a human staying patient is fine when (as a regular money human-lol) you can make $25 profit in a average hand, but looking to put in lots of hours to make $20 or $25 a day is really hard for me. (I mainly move up in stakes underrolled) So, I've been losing the past 6 months and am wondering if I should just save up about $2,500 to finance a car and hopefully make a guarunteed $100/day or so grinding Uber(from NY) till I have about $12k for a live bankroll.
That makes sense right? Before the end of 2025 I'll be setup with a real bankroll and be able to give cards a real shot.
Just running this by anyone who reads to make sure I'm thinking "straight."
Thanks
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I don't understand cars and taxi driver work, and I don't know what the pitfalls might be (expenses, etc.). But I know a little bit about poker, and the fact that you were shoting the limits higher without adhering to a strict BRM is a bad sign. Moreover, even in a live game you want to play with about 100 buy-ins, it's quite risky, even if you crushing the limit. The poker variance calculator will help you, where you can calculate the probability of draining the bankroll, taking into account confidence intervals. I would advise to have at least 300 buy-ins in cash games and 500+ buy-ins in mtt/spins.
Brm is something I have to adhere to. In reality winning about 65% of sessions is great so can't have a few sessions steer me wrong. Thanks for your response.
You really recommend 300 buyins? Your prob. Joking with me but I still appreciate the response. I think 50 is good and 100 is great.
Thanks.
Yes buddy, 100 buy-ins were recommended 10-15 years ago, since that time the field has strengthened and the win rates have dropped. Let me give you an example, I play fast spins and I personally had a streak of 400 bi, I saw several players with streaks of 1000-1500bi and even one unique who had a streak of almost 3000 by-ins. I know it seems unbelievable.
Why waste breath on things.. lol at you. Low life and pathetic toxic behavior stems from not being straight. I'm straighter than you.
I would imagine it to be quite difficult to make a living at micro stakes unless you are playing an ungodly amount of tables. Probably best to increase skill and move up stakes. I think it would be good to play a specific stake with a great sample size to the point where you are 95% likely to be above 0BBs/100. Once you do that keep moving up stakes to the one where you can make a living at. You can play around on primedope variance calculator to get an idea. Just google primedope and it should pop up.
Bankroll should be determined by your winrate, but it is best to go on the conservative route. I think 50 buyins is an okay rule if you have the discipline to move down. I prefer to have a lot more just for peace of mind. I personally play 100NL and have a bankroll of roughly $30k, but that is overkill. I don't feel as confident with my skills at 200NL and have a healthy winrate at 100NL that allows me to make a profit every month with a solid degree of probability.
I personally wouldn't want to finance a car to do uber, I think there are better ways to make money, but to each his own.
Yes buddy, 100 buy-ins were recommended 10-15 years ago, since that time the field has strengthened and the win rates have dropped. Let me give you an example, I play fast spins and I personally had a streak of 400 bi, I saw several players with streaks of 1000-1500bi and even one unique who had a streak of almost 3000 by-ins. I know it seems unbelievable.
Spins make me want to claw my eyes out. I prefer cash games rather than tournaments, because you can consistently make money on a regular basis. For tournaments the volume you have to put in is just insane. It is true that tournament players tend to suck a lot more, but the reason for this is that it is also very difficult to make a living from it due to the variance.
$12k is enough for $1/$3 live to me. I'd like 60 buy-ins so $18k but $12k should be ok for me to outlast variance I think at around an 80% confidence level.
Why wouldn't uber be a good idea? Seems simple in just driving people around using your own car. I think this is my best bet for making $100/day around. I'd be in Vegas within 5 months.
It could be. I don't really know that much about it to be honest nor do I fully know the grasp of your circumstances. I just think about the wear on your vehicle might add up with driving around all the time. Also financing for cars can get quite expensive and can be a bit of a money pit.
Why waste breath on things.. lol at you. Low life and pathetic toxic behavior stems from not being straight. I'm straighter than you.
What are you talking about? What did you not like about my message and how did my toxicity manifest itself? I'm not a native English speaker, can someone explain what's wrong with my message and what the TS is offended about?
What are you even saying dude? I asked advice on basically if I should give up micros because of the mental stress going from playing higher stakes and work for Uber and you say about having 300 buyins... my bad if your intent wasn't they're but please that's some stupid advice in this situation.
It could be. I don't really know that much about it to be honest nor do I fully know the grasp of your circumstances. I just think about the wear on your vehicle might add up with driving around all the time. Also financing for cars can get quite expensive and can be a bit of a money pit.
Not really.. a 9k car is cheap and qualifies for uber... basically would be working for about 5 months like I think I said for a real bankroll and start of a career in poker. So if you read that (and cared) I think your speaking a little to much and broadly tbh. But ty for your time.
Live in the moment. Hug your families.
Also, WHAT THE HELL KIND OF POKER ARE YOU PLAYING WHERE A HAND TAKES A WHOLE DAY?
What are you talking about? What did you not like about my message and how did my toxicity manifest itself? I'm not a native English speaker, can someone explain what's wrong with my message and what the TS is offended about?
Your English is fine. The guy who created this thread is clearly a loser in poker as well as in life. He begs for help on countless forum pages and then insults the people that give him advice. Bro thinks a 9k car is cheap when that's probably half his years salary lol.
You not only comment on these threads but you boast to me.. it's APPARENT. Why would you boast so highly of yourself to me... awww what a sweet lil pussee you are in life. I lost 10k at plo1000 in 4 hours that's a FACT now I'm stuck because I have no family.
You are so pathetic in how you speak that I can't understand why you wouldn't respond normally to the question and instead tried to make yourself feel good about who you are..
Let me ask you IS THAT NOT UTTERLY PATHETIC? ARE YOU INSANE TO NOT UNDERSTAND THAT THEYRES PEOPLE OUT THEYRE WHO NOTICE THIS ABOUT YOU? WERE YOUR PARENTS THAT UNAWARE IN RAISING YOU THAT HOW YOU SOUND YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU SOUND LIKE?
WHAT A TRULY PATHETIC PERSON. IM DISGUSTED. KEEP TALKING TO HEAR YOURSELF TALK.
Firstly, I never boasted to you. Secondly, you brought this on yourself for insulting me. Also, you liked your own comment insulting the other guy for no reason which is super cringe. If you did the bank roll requirements that the guy that you called a low-life suggested, maybe you wouldn't be 10k in the hole. Just a thought.
I actually think his bank roll requirements are a bit extreme, but I wouldn't call him a low life toxic person because of that opinion. That's the difference between you and me though.
Your pathetic... I can't interact with you. I coukd explain but it'd be useless.. sorry your so hurt abou t me nit wan̈ting your advice...that you commented in all my threads.. that's a lil over the top but lol a t you for being so in your feelings about it.. My suspicions about your advice should be taken seriously based off your actions after... somethings off with you guy.. don't take your hard day out on someone who is broke you seem the type to think that's OK. So please get away
TheGodson Thanks for clarification.
CardPlayer47
I have a familiar who, like you, hates micro limits with all his soul and has never adhered to strict BRM. Even after he won 20k in Sunday Storm, he spent some of the money on tournaments with 1k entry, although I tried my best to dissuade him from this. And although he had been in the red for many years before, in a couple of years he was able to win 30k (including SS). But in the end, due to the fact that he could not properly manage his bankroll, he has now 0 in his account and has not been playing for four years, he sold his laptop and phone due to lack of income and left for another country, returned about six months ago, and then we talked with him for the last time. once.
On the other hand, I am an eternal micro-limiter, but at the same time, the first and last time I made a deposit was in 2015, that is, 10 years ago (I created a topic here about the Stars investigation of my account's, you can read it). Yes, I've earned 5 times less than him over the years. But where I live, the average salary is $400/m. I am now successfully playing in another room, waiting for my BR-a to be returned by the Stars, and I have planned my game for years ahead with a clear goal of $1 million at the end. The most difficult thing is to stick to the plan, at least at 80%. To do this, you need to gather your willpower and grit your teeth and play micro limits.
important! all this is only on condition that you are ahead not only of the pool in skill, but even ahead the regs. If this is not the case, then no BRM will help you.
That is, your behavior in this regard is absolutely the same as his (the story with PLO confirms), and in principle, like that of a huge number of amateur players. If you absolutely do not want to play micro limits, then you should probably try taxi, because jumping higher limits without having enough BI is a risk that you can check yourself using a poker calculator.
Your offended i don't want to play micros... don't be disrespectful if you are your easily seen through.. it's apparent to real people. I laugh inside at you
If you're judging how good you are in poker today by a 7 week heater almost 10 years ago, you're probably not good enough to take a gamble with your extra $600/mo., especially if you've been losing over the past 6 months.
There's nothing wrong with playing as a hobby while studying to improve your play, but if I were you I wouldn't even be thinking about how much you can make per hour, just play when you can and try to start a bankroll with your winnings, otherwise it's like putting the cart before the horse.
Stfu why even speak if I was you I'd just keep my thoughts to myself... last two times I had a real bankroll I did great.. pleaaaaaassseee cocksuka don't speak around me.
Edit: you don't know how to communicate.. you don't just look at a post like this and not look deeper into it it's just it really is shameful to go about life like that. I didn't read 2nd paragraph till now and even though your wrong I forgive you you just can't really communicate well.. but please don't talk to me tyvm
