QQT3

What is this rock

Don't know if I'd 3b this just because he's opening that wide. Think I'd prefer a hand that hits more flops, like QJT5ds or something. Any wrap connectivity with ds and I prob snap 3b.

The rock is a straddle to 10 and is automatically posted by the winner of the previous hand. Action starts pre to the left of the rock, then reverts back to normal post flop.

Think you can check fold.

I've never played with a rock but remember Mason Malmuth posting about this years ago pre poker boom (IIRC he didn't like it and thought it tightened up the game).

With a $10 rock and a $2 big blind and $500 effective it seems you are really playing only 50 big blinds deep. Does this make sense?

It’s a 500 max buy, an interesting structure as there are lots of all ins and stacks get deep quite quickly. There is no incentive to vpip high as it’s less than 1/3 of a big blind per round in blinds.

I like the rock. The players who want to straddle are generally the ones straddling.

Yes. 3betting QQT3ds oop to a 'very good lag' is a pretty hefty mistake.

Good 3bet preflop. I think you can just pot the flop now, K is not ideal, but 3 gives us a little bit of extra equity.

Kind of gross but with the spr being what it is I think you’re just potting and getting it in here against a LAG

Fine pre, now x/f vs. a reasonably sized bet. It's close but not strong enough. Your equity vs. a random K is just too low.

You have no straight draw, no bdfd, you don't block anything really. 3 is nice but really doesn't do much.

Edit - played around in PPT and it's probably a check/fold. The only argument for betting would be is if he does indeed play 80% of hands and would x/f a bare 3 or bare 4. There's just too many clubs/Kx out there.

A good lag is going to outplay Hero post-flop, off-setting the EV gains from 3! when Hero is ahead. Hero hand has poor blockers, poor playability. Less outplaying, than the natural power of position at a favorable SPR; and worse because good lags can be very formidable in PLO and find a lot of great lines against Hero.

And a good/balanced lag can also stuff it in pre-flop and Hero is going to be behind his range but getting the right odds to stack off anyway. It's pretty easy to put together a fun, light 4! jam range from villain where he is still a ~61.5% favorite or something against Hero without villain worrying about spewing huge.

agree that 3bet pre is wrong, hand is not strong enough for that, esp. against a good LAG.
just flat, somewhat disguise the strength of your hand (ds), see a flop cheap and take it from there.

It could be that 3b pre is wrong. 50bb seems too short for that to be the case. I really don't know.

But the flop seems like a profitable jam. Assuming:

- 80% less *my* 4bet range for BUT (some but not all AA are 4bet and some !AA are 4bet)
- Pot is 1, effective stack is 1.5
- we pot the flop and call all BUT gii
- BUT gii with any of (cc,AA,K,4,3,65,A25) for about 75% of pf range
- We have about 37% equity vs BUT gii range
- BUT folds all of !(cc,AA,K,4,3,65,A25) for about 25% of range

Then we have an EV of about .235 pots, here $60. Let's say BUT is more selective and needs mid/bot set rather than just any pair. New assumptions:

- BUT gii with any of (cc,K,44,33,65,AA,A25) for about 53% of pf range
- We have about 30% equity vs BUT gii range
- BUT folds all of !(cc,AA,K,44,33,65,A25) for about 47% of range

Then we have an EV of about .17 pots or $43.

One way to look at why a jam would be bad is that this is pretty close to the bottom of our range. We have neither blockers nor equity, as well as being pretty toasty against a calling range. We can achieve the same thing for a far better price by bet-folding ~$100. But I wouldn't even do that, given how much K-high boards hit an IP callers range.